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 Posted:   Nov 30, 2007 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Yeah, Silver Screen Kiss is fantastic. The opening track Dies Irae is probably my favorite on Demolition Man.

As far as Cobb goes, it's a tie between The Homecoming and The Baptism. Amazing stuff!

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Actually, I would cite Goldenthal's work on the admittedly odious Joel Schumacher Batman movies as examples of the composer cutting loose with some strange ideas. The films themselves are complete messes, but his music has a very brash and off-kilter style that is a whole lot of fun, and not too dissimilar from some of those Goldsmith misfires that nevertheless inspired some really entertaining scores.

But I also would mention that I think that Final Fantasy is one of the best examples of a composer fusing his particular, and somewhat idiosyncratic musical voice with the requirements of the genre. And Titus is just a fascinating postmodern Appian Romp, if you'll excuse the pun. I can't say I consider The Butcher Boy or In Dreams terribly stale either.

Dunno.


OK. For starters, I've been into baseball all my life and at times seriously into it. I've been into film and music all my life and always seriously into film music. With that background, albeit as a serious LATEcomer, I'm watching Cobb for the very first time. And was something along the lines of blown away by the opening credits music. It has a strong "bygone era" feel starting with the trumpet of Americana and man did it get my attention. But then there came a "menacing" feel, and I said to myself hey with what you know of the game, the era and Ty Cobb this makes sense.

So I was set up. And I was HAD! It was like the shark theme... at the beginning of 1941!! I'm about a third to half-way in and this is not the film I expected. I've been laughing hysterically at it (no, WITH it) and at myself. Oh I knew the guy was a real character and all and I've come across various Cobb-like ones in my time, but Tommy Lee Jones has me in utter stitches.

The above post in italics is on to something. Or was since this response is years later. If I remember correctly, the flick garnered mixed reviews and I am not quite sure what to make of it. Yet. But so far I'm having a romp.

COBB is an underrated gem that adds a whole other dramatic layer to the film (the music is the only thing that truly mirrors Ty Cobb's mental state).

I dunno m'self about the first part by you got that right about the music LOL!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Film Fest Ghent   (Member)

It's one of my favorite Goldenthal scores, "The Homecoming" is such a heart wrenching piece. I love the frenetic violin solos on Reno Ho (Part One, I think). I agree with the previous comment that if you enjoy Goldenthal's scores, this one's sure to please.

The "Homecoming" part of the Cobb concert suite has been recently recorded for our WSA CD available here:
https://shop.filmfestival.be/products/world-soundtrack-awards-tribute-to-the-film-composer

(FSM thread here: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=141476)

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Moonlight   (Member)

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 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Underrated score for sure. It feels like a very personal project from Goldenthal. Not the spectacle of his more well known works.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I had never heard this before, but vaguely recalled reading some discussion about it years ago (probably this thread). I found a suite on YouTube and it's very good and interesting:

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2021 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I am listening to this score right now and i'm blown away. Amazingly inventive and imaginative stuff. This score is a masterpiece.

The score for Cobb should be acknowledged as top tier, not a curio. Oh how I dearly wish that this (and Alien 3) was the score that Elliot Goldenthal won the Oscar for and not Frida (which is a good score, don't get me wrong, but far from one of Goldenthal's best).

This is one of the finest film scores written anytime anywhere. I still think that Alien 3 is Goldenthal's best score, but this is certainly one of his masterpieces.

I wish that Doug Adams could get Goldenthal and his orchestrator Robert Elhai together and do an analysis of this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2021 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, Night, it's a fantastic score (and great film too). Listening to vintage Goldenthal is always a reminder of the inventive orchestral scores that regularly came out in the 90s. They're still around, but rarely with that kind of original voice.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2021 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I am listening to this score *again*. It might even be my second favorite Goldenthal score after Alien 3, although with Goldenthal that's always a kind of hard to say given how strong many of his scores are.

I love it so much. If i'm not mistaken, Goldenthal also considers it to be one of his absolute best scores. Didn't he call the score to Cobb "one of his lost children" or something like that? Does anyone here happen to know the context where Goldenthal said that about Cobb or if he has expressed his fondness for the score elsewhere, in an interview for example?

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2021 - 3:20 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

I gave this another listen recently based on the effusive comments and it really is a terrific score. My only query is whether The Homecoming (which features on the terrific recent World Soundtrack Awards compilation) is based on something else... it sounds like Mahler to me. I don't know if it's intentional or just my imagination but it has a very Mahlerian adagio sound to it. If so, given it's Goldenthal, I would assume it would have been a deliberate choice.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2021 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

I gave this another listen recently based on the effusive comments and it really is a terrific score. My only query is whether The Homecoming (which features on the terrific recent World Soundtrack Awards compilation) is based on something else... it sounds like Mahler to me. I don't know if it's intentional or just my imagination but it has a very Mahlerian adagio sound to it. If so, given it's Goldenthal, I would assume it would have been a deliberate choice.

Lol. Even if the temp had been a Mahler adagio, as if it’s that easy to “just do something like that.” (I can hear a director’s voice saying that).

 
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