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 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Full of pathos - from the romantic to the terrifying, this is one of Williams' true gems, heavily inspired by classical English music (for which Williams has expressed his affection).

For the longest time, I couldn't stand the sound of a recorder, as I associated it with a bunch of kids in music class, wailing out dissonant recorder noises in order to "learn" the scale. However, Williams manages to make good use of it in this score, and it's actually quite lovely.

I always jump sky-high when the high-pitched strings and electronic noise stinger enters in "Thwarted Wedding", however.

My favourite track is "Restoration", which is a perfect example of Williams' trademark religious sound.

For several years, this was as hard-to-get as WITCHES OF EASTWICK and SPACECAMP. But then Silva thankfully rereleased it in 1999, so that more people could enjoy it. I'm also thankful that they preserved the LP presentation, but I wish they had had the means to improve the sound just a little bit.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

Great score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

How can this score be SO perfect, yet something like Angela's Ashes sounds so off the mark and American it's intrusive?

Certainly don't agree with you there. While "Coming to America" or whatever it's called obviously is full of Americana sounds, the rest of the score has a JANE EYRE-like vibe to it. Just listen to "Angela's Prayer", another brilliant example of Williams' religious sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   The Big Bear   (Member)

...yet something like Angela's Ashes sounds so off the mark and American it's intrusive?

If sounding like Ralph Vaughn Williams was suddenly considered "American"and not English, then you'd have a point. In the meantime, the score to "Angela's Ashes" remains one of the best things about the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

A splendid score -- just about the earliest Williams disc to catch my attention. Thank goodness for compact discs. The LP version had more snap, crackle, and pop than a bowl of Rice Krispies.

I've never seen this film. Is there additional music in the score? How does it all work with the visuals?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   WLW   (Member)

A splendid score -- just about the earliest Williams disc to catch my attention. Thank goodness for compact discs. The LP version had more snap, crackle, and pop than a bowl of Rice Krispies.

I've never seen this film. Is there additional music in the score? How does it all work with the visuals?


Actually, if I recall, the version of the scherzo on the OST is a different composition than the one used in the film. I also remember a few other differences, but I haven't seen the film in about 10 years.

Also, the final music cue of the crappy 1970 film Story of a Woman (a year before Jane Eyre) has a beautifully similar emotional feel to "Reunion" from Jane Eyre. That cue from SOAW always makes me cry. The rest of that score has some nice moments too. Never released, but I'd love to own it.

WLW

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I saw the intial showing of this movie on TV and instantly loved the score. My brother worked very hard to find the album for me, my first Williams. I've never parted with this album even though I now have the CD and no record player. It is just gorgeous.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Alexcremers   (Member)

I wish this new CD never saw the light of day since it crashed the value of my 1988 Silva Screen CD.

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Alex Cremers

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

It's great to see a discussion thread about such a wonderful score. A few tidbits about it:

The album (CD) is a re-recording. The original tracks are similar, but shorter, and without the extra "Williams polish" that he often does for his albums.

"To Thornfield" doesn't appear in the score. That scene seems to have been an editing room casualty; only a glimpse of it remains in the film, more a transition than the sequence it (may) once have been.

"Trio - The Meeting" doesn't appear either, if memory serves.

"String Quartet - Festivity At Thornfield" is replaced in the film by a different string quartet piece.

The original written score is lost (as are the masters?) and when Williams decided to re-record the score with the Boston Pops for "Pops Brittania" he had to listen to the lp and copy the music out by ear.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I wish this new CD never saw the light of day since it crashed the value of my 1988 Silva Screen CD.

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Alex Cremers


Were you planning on selling that 1988 disc?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   Alexcremers   (Member)

Sell it? No, but it was fun to be able to say to people that this CD was worth a lotta dough. I guess I still can do that with my Spacecamp CD, that is, untill next week or so, when they are undoubtedly gonna re-release it in some super duper expanded version with superior sound.


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Alex Cremers

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Truly one of THE great John Williams scores, like Mom joan I too fell in love with this after watching the movie on tv, at a time when soundtracks were harder to come by I just assumed it never existed on LP when my searches for it became fruitless. I had to wait until the old "That's Entertainment" label re-issued it in the early 1980's.

The spirit of Vaughan Williams is very strong in this score (as it is too, with Angela's Ashes, a score that in no way sounds like 'Americana') though it is always John's score and in no way sounds like a pastiche. I honestly can't think of a more beautiful piano led theme than Jane Eyre.


I can't praise this score enough.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

i think jane eyre is some of williams best work and some of my favorites too,
and some of the new harry potter cues sounds much influenced by his music to jane eyre

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   gsteven   (Member)

I've never seen this film. Is there additional music in the score? How does it all work with the visuals?

A number of the 70s made-for-TV films are available on budget DVDs, including Williams' JANE EYRE. Others I've come across are Williams' HEIDI, Barry's ALICE'S ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND (not a TV film), Jarre's GREAT EXPECTATIONS, Arnold's DAVID COPPERFIELD. Quality is fair to poor with these, but they are an improvement over earlier budget VHS releases.

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Jane Eyre was my first Williams LP (back in 1970), as it was, I believe, the first LP to recognize his serious symphonic dramatic side, and the first time that his name appeared as "John" Williams, rather than "Johnny" Williams.

"Restoration" is certainly the highlight of the album, and Williams' orchestration brought a certain ecclesiastical/spiritual Vaughan Williams Thomas-Talis-Fantasia quality to it that wasn't as evident in the version heard in the actual film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   Thomas Scofield   (Member)

While certainly not up to Herrmann's take on this tale, this was the first thing that I heard from Williams that really impressed me that there might be more "under the surface" than his previous work had lead me to believe, and soon that hunch was to be proven correct.

I also think LeGrand's contemporary (with Williams') take on Bronte material, WUTHERING HEIGHTS, is even more striking and haunting, and showed a side of LeGrand that we rarely get to see.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2004 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Logied   (Member)

This movie is out on DVD in a very poor transfer
(at least the one I have) and generally underated as Versions of Jane Eyre go. The sound is good and I also still have my orginal Lp and CD. The LP was very hard to get at the time and the CD was one of those lucky out of business bin finds you get now and then back in
the late 80's. Only 6 weeks until Tanglewoods!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2004 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

Williams used to (maybe still does) perform a suite from JANE EYRE at concerts. I got to hear it in 1987: "At Lowood - To Thornfield - Reunion". To me it was the highlight of the concert.

I think ANGELA'S ASHES shows that Williams hasn't lost much of anything in 30 years.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2004 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

As I recall, I first became aware of Williams' orchestral talents with THE REIVERS, in 1969. I got that lp, then was struck by the skill of JANE EYRE, when I first saw it on TV in 1971 or so. (Leonard Maltin dates it at '71 in his movie guide. I remember watching it with my then-girlfriend-later-wife-now-ex-wife, and we liked it so much that it became our favorite album to listen to together. Our other favorite movie, THE GHOST AND MRS.MUIR had yet to see lp release, and CD's were still a figment of someone's imagination.)

The score on lp and CD is quite different from that of the film. I'd still like to get an album of the combined cues from both. The film's score is leaner, and less romanticized than the album's rendidtion. Or maybe that's just my memory. The film seems to have gone into the public domain, as it can now be obtained in those bins of $6.99 DVD's, with superfical packaging. It's OK, though it hasn't nearly the drama of the best version, from the late 40's, with Orson Welles, full of atmosphere and film-noir lighting, not to mention one of Bernard Herrmann's best romantic scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2004 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

A few months ago, someone gave me about five cues from the actual soundtrack of Jane Eyre, better orchestra (and larger) and much better playing than on the album.
my first exposure to williams was this score and The Reivers. Then came Jaws. I also really like stanley and Iris, E.T. ( what a score!!), Accidental Tourist and Close Encounters. I like the Harry Potters (especially the firebirds them in #2) but don't think as much of #3 as do others in this group.

 
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