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 Posted:   Feb 19, 2001 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I know what you are thinking- unhealthy 80s obsession.................

Anyway- Anyone heard this score- how can WC be BAD??

"He's fallen....... burning in the twiight!"

(yep, Wang Chung on The Breakfast Club)

PS Does Gary Chang *REALLY* pst here?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2001 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   Jack   (Member)

I liked this one. It really worked well in the film and as a stand alone cd.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2001 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   SjONGBIrD   (Member)

Count me in as a BIG fan of TO LIVE & DIE IN LA - the film AND the score!
I once saw WANG CHUNG in concert at MAGIC MOUNTAIN - only about twelve of us in attendance...so soon, the mighty can fall! http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/rolleyes.gif">
Re: the film -- Friedkin delivered another great chase sequence on the freeways. In my estimation - Friedkin is also way cool 'cause he always explores areas others might never touch - and he utilizes what some my consider odd choices for scoring his films -- i.e.->
TANGERINE DREAM for SORCERER (has anyone ever heard MORRICONE's score for Friedkin's very strange film, RAMPAGE?
most effective!
His most recent film (the title has totally escaped me...) has a good score by Mark ISHAM. And let's not forget he also did CRUSING http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/tongue.gif"> -- with Jack NITZSCHE scoring -- and THE BOYS IN THE BAND http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/eek.gif">!!
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 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

Wow!

You saw Wang Chung for REAL!!!!???? Damn, you are lucky- I take it that it was in the 1990s though, right? shame.............. I love pop synth- I wouldve killed to see them circa 1984

SONGBIRD- What did you think of FIRE IN THE TWILIGHT for The Breakfast Club? I am very interested to hear your opinion.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   SjONGBIrD   (Member)

Actually - I saw WANG CHUNG in the 80's - not too far from their peek...
I haven't seen THE BREAKFAST CLUB for many many years now... I remember loving the music and ALL the songs - ALL OF THEM!!
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 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

Yep, I love them too http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/smile.gif"> http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/smile.gif"> http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/smile.gif">

That song Fire in the Twilght is just kick ass http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/smile.gif"> I love playing it in the car at high speeds

TLADILa is a great score, and makes for a nice album http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/wink.gif">

Jack Hues also scored THE GUARDIAN in 1989 for William Friedkin, although that score is written for gnarly string quartet and doesn't sound like their pop work at all...

Morricone's RAMPAGE is another great score,although many fans don't seem to like it....the composer and director communicated on what that score would be like by playing Stravinsky and some other modern classical music for each other...

Best,
Sean
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 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   H. Rocco   (Member)

I believe Wang Chung did that score to the SCRIPT, and Friedkin shot and cut the film according to its rhythms. Nice enough piece of work.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   SjONGBIrD   (Member)

From what I've read -- TANGERINE DREAM composed the music for Friedkin's SORCERER just from the SCRIPT alone - not seeing ANY scenes at all!! I'm not familiar with how Friedkin utilized Wang Chung on To Live & Die In LA -- sounds about right tho...
I thought that TD also did this with Scott's
LEGEND...I could be wrong on that film. But it is well known that -> that's how TD composes film scores. How does anyone here feel about TD's score for Michael Mann's - THE KEEP?
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 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Wouldn't have thought Tangerine Dream wrote their LEGEND score from the script, as theirs was a replacement score for a re-edited version of the film.

I don't usually like Tangerine Dream, but their MIRACLE MILE score is a favourite.

Haven't played TO LIVE AND DIE IN LA recently (I have it on cassette), but I've been thinking about digging it out.

NP: EXECUTIVE DECISION (Jerry Goldsmith)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 3:09 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

SONGBIRD-

I have mxed feelings about the Keep- the intro stuff when the jeeps roll into the Romanian mountainside is TERRIBLE,totally misplaced and anachronistic- It felt like Britain's AUF WIEDERSEIN PET TV show.

Later on the Golem themes were so netherworldish and bringing in Blakes The Snowman was also a curious yet mysteriously successful choice-certainly one to uplift the humanityof the film at that point- in fact, the image of Ian McKellen regaining his old age really kicked in as nerve-aching afterthought once the credits were in motion.

Having this fresh pop-synth youth electronica band amid all of this pseudo goth-toture imagery realised a Neil Gaiman styled quality to the film, as though it was the thoughts of a naive art student obsessed with death and destruction.


The most effective, ambient synths I have heard are those used for the SWAMP track for FLASH GORDON. They sound so timeless and elsewhere-

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 4:10 AM   
 By:   SjONGBIrD   (Member)

I don't think I've EVER read such eloquent musings on a score before (re:TD and THE KEEP!)...
And don't even get me started on Queen's terrific FLASH GORDON score -- love it, love it - always - love it!!!
---
and I am well aware that TD replaced Jerry Goldsmith's score for LEGEND (a CD that gets heavy play 'round my encampment!) -- however - I'm (nearly) sure that Tangerine Dream requested the script before agreeing to score the replacement! That's just how that band of dudes does their thing -- they prefer to READ the scripts prior to scoring - seems they get a better feel for what must be done by visuals in their heads! - or so i've been told and have read. i also hear they grow great canabis in Germany! http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/eek.gif"> http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/rolleyes.gif">
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 Posted:   Feb 21, 2001 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   lars b   (Member)

Always been a fan of TANGERINE DREAM.
Their score to THE KEEP is great, especially the use of 'Gloria', and the scene where Scott Glenn travels by boat from Greece to Romania is great.
Also great music is from James Glickenhaus' THE SOLDIER, starring Ken Wahl.
Although a lot of this music can be found on their studio albums, like 'LOGOS', I wouldn't mind proper CD-releases.

Btw : FIRESTARTER is good too.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2001 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Jack   (Member)

Speaking of Tangerine Dream, what ever happened to the announced STREETHAWK cd?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2001 - 11:26 PM   
 By:   thinredline98   (Member)

Ohhhh!!! The Keep, what a score and a really interesting horror movie for it's time. I'd love to have this score personally. What does everyone think of their score to the movie, Thief. I'm really curious because I've heard different things bout it and I wanna get the album. So let me know..

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2001 - 1:05 AM   
 By:   H. Rocco   (Member)

Re Tangerine Dream and LEGEND (their score of which didn't need to exist, but which happens to be one of their best) -- not only did the group see the film before tackling it, they saw the Goldsmith-scored version! Probably shown to them as an object lesson as to what the studio DIDN'T want. One of the members later admitted, "We really loved that opening Jerry did," but what could they do? A job is a job.

William Friedkin's liner notes to SORCERER observe that if he'd known about Tangerine Dream at the time he was shooting THE EXORCIST, he'd certainly have chosen them to score it. I like Tangerine Dream more than I don't, but can't imagine them scoring THE EXORCIST. On the other hand, I didn't know what Mike Oldfield's "Tubular Bells" even WAS when I first saw it, so who knows.

Whatchall think of James Horner's score to William Friedkin's JADE? I sometimes wonder if Friedkin asked Horner to build the whole thing around the (quite lovely) song -- not Horner's -- that plays over the end title.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2001 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   SjONGBIrD   (Member)

Forgot all about TD's THIEF.
I have an old cassette around here somewhere.
I used to listen to it all the time - wore it out probably. I remember Beach Theme, and Trap Feeling being particular favs of mine.
Short album - but, oh so sweet.
For me, my love affair with TD all started with SORCERER - so, thanks Mr. Friedkin!
Good to know there are several of us who dig TANGERINE DREAM!
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 Posted:   Feb 21, 2001 - 3:07 AM   
 By:   H. Rocco   (Member)

Isn't there a cue by Craig Safan on THIEF?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2001 - 3:20 AM   
 By:   SjONGBIrD   (Member)

YEP -- 'Confrontation' - composed by Craig Safan.
I dug thru my shyte and found my cassette of the score to THIEF - damn-it-all tho...the little pad thingy has fallen off somewhere!
oh well, time to find this on CD!
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 Posted:   Feb 21, 2001 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   thinredline98   (Member)

Looks like I'll have to get Thief on CD then..I know it's on the Virgin label and an import which sucks though.

Rocco, I really liked James Horner's score to Jade. In fact, I really wished it was released because it was definetly the best part of the film. How much score was there is the question. The Main Titles are one of the best Horner had written in a long time to that point next to both Braveheart and Apollo 13. I only have a three minute plus suite on a bootleg called Screen Themes 2, which i highly recommend because it has a lot of unreleased music from Die Hard With A Vengeance, I.Q., Pretty Woman and a ton more.

P.O.
Rollecoaster (Lalo Schifrin, expanded) ***

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2001 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

quote:
Originally posted by H. Rocco:
Re Tangerine Dream and LEGEND (their score of which didn't need to exist, but which happens to be one of their best) -- not only did the group see the film before tackling it, they saw the Goldsmith-scored version! Probably shown to them as an object lesson as to what the studio DIDN'T want. One of the members later admitted, "We really loved that opening Jerry did," but what could they do? A job is a job.

In the liner notes for TD's late 90's album TURN OF THE TIDES, among the many varied artists the band gives special thanks too, Jerry Goldsmith is included http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/biggrin.gif">


William Friedkin's liner notes to SORCERER observe that if he'd known about Tangerine Dream at the time he was shooting THE EXORCIST, he'd certainly have chosen them to score it. I like Tangerine Dream more than I don't, but can't imagine them scoring THE EXORCIST. On the other hand, I didn't know what Mike Oldfield's "Tubular Bells" even WAS when I first saw it, so who knows.



They would have done a great job on THE EXORCIST, probably pretty close to the music that is currently in the film. Any doubters should check out their albums ATEM,ZEIT,ALPHA CENTARI,ELECTRONIC MEDITATION from that period. Much of that music is largely atonal,but makes for interesting listening....although it's very drone oriented so be warned!
And THIEF is a great one IMO....the CD loses the Craig Safan cue(Dammit! Now I have to keep my LP forever,since that piece has some great guitar,which sounds EXACTLY like Edgar Froese's playing!) and adds the 7min. "Beach Scene" which really just expands on "Beach Theme" the first cue.
Now the album doesn't resolve properly, since the final cue IGNEOUS(previously heard on the 1979 album FORCE MAJEURE)sort of.....just ends http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/frown.gif"> http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/frown.gif">

Best,
Sean

 
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