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 Posted:   Jul 20, 2021 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

I normally do not go into these kind of discussions…
I realise that this is a place where people are free to write any opinion, they care for…
My comment here is not exactly related to this thread…
However; I have always been questioning myself:

“When a soundtrack gets released – (for example) – and there are people – who basically feel like they have just won the lottery – because one of their holy grails just got released…
…my questions are:

1) If you are a person; who does NOT care for the score which has been released – why would you waste your time viewing the thread?

2) Even more so – why would you waste your time advising the people that you never cared much for that score??

Personally; If I don’t care for a score / composer – I would not bother visiting that thread – let alone making a comment…

I guess you call these people – “the trolls”.
That is pretty much what is going on here… if you don’t care for John Williams music… (or a portion of his scores) – then why are you wasting your time writing about it??
Please; go and preach about how much you admire Hans Zimmer!”

I know I am about to get blasted for this; but the point of my question is – “Why?”

People; please... if you do not care about a particular score – or a particular composer – no one has asked you to post – (in regards to) – how much you dislike the score / composer… (??)

On these forums… (unfortunately) – If you notice; what happens usually – people will talk about a particular score – (prior to the CD getting delivered to them) – and once it gets delivered to their home – many people don’t care to post any more comments about the actual score / cues etc…

Most of time – what I read here on these forums – are negative comments… this thread being an example… (which is why I am commenting) – reading things like – “I don’t like the music of John Williams because his scores are classical” – is heart breaking!

Because composers who write in the style of John Williams – are the reason I still have hope about being alive…

Like I said; if you don’t like a particular composer – or score – then why bother commenting??

If you don’t like the 1978 film – “Superman: The Movie” – that is great – but you don’t need to trash it.

In regards to a Superman related thread which I read years ago… I am commenting now:
I don’t care if you don’t like the music towards the end of the film… you don’t need to comment that. The fact that you only play the first CD – and not the second… please; keep that to yourself!

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2021 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Yes, yes! You're wrong! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2021 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Yes, yes! You're wrong! big grin

No, he is! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2021 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)



No, he is! big grin


You're wrong, too! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2021 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

I think there are two things occurring here - attacks on preferences and analysis of preferences.


I can understand why people are defensive - I have a particular sadness with Williams and his music because it is definitely not where Hollywood film scores are today so part of me mourns the potential loss of them but moreso when the replacement is lazy or poor-quality from a musically scientific standpoint.

But in terms of preference, I’m very fascinated to learn why it is someone may connect more to some kind of film score than another.

With Williams in particular, he is a rare combination of music that is extremely well-crafted and very accessible, so it’s interesting for me to learn what doesn’t work for people.

In the case of “First Breath”, it was as simple as not being a fan of classical / traditional orchestras in general, and if they are used, having some elements that are modern and unique. This wasn’t specific to Williams but to all composers who use orchestras.

What probably also makes this complicated is that film scores are a specific genre, and the majority of them utilize orchestras. So there is a strong expectation for there to be an orchestra, much like rock music is expected to have drums, bass, and lead guitars. If a “rock” song had Celeste, harpsichord, and flute, you’d maybe be wondering if it was a rock song.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2021 - 1:52 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I normally do not go into these kind of discussions…
I realise that this is a place where people are free to write any opinion, they care for…
My comment here is not exactly related to this thread…
However; I have always been questioning myself:

“When a soundtrack gets released – (for example) – and there are people – who basically feel like they have just won the lottery – because one of their holy grails just got released…
…my questions are:

1) If you are a person; who does NOT care for the score which has been released – why would you waste your time viewing the thread?

2) Even more so – why would you waste your time advising the people that you never cared much for that score??

Personally; If I don’t care for a score / composer – I would not bother visiting that thread – let alone making a comment…

I guess you call these people – “the trolls”.
That is pretty much what is going on here… if you don’t care for John Williams music… (or a portion of his scores) – then why are you wasting your time writing about it??
Please; go and preach about how much you admire Hans Zimmer!”

I know I am about to get blasted for this; but the point of my question is – “Why?”

People; please... if you do not care about a particular score – or a particular composer – no one has asked you to post – (in regards to) – how much you dislike the score / composer… (??)

On these forums… (unfortunately) – If you notice; what happens usually – people will talk about a particular score – (prior to the CD getting delivered to them) – and once it gets delivered to their home – many people don’t care to post any more comments about the actual score / cues etc…

Most of time – what I read here on these forums – are negative comments… this thread being an example… (which is why I am commenting) – reading things like – “I don’t like the music of John Williams because his scores are classical” – is heart breaking!

Because composers who write in the style of John Williams – are the reason I still have hope about being alive…

Like I said; if you don’t like a particular composer – or score – then why bother commenting??

If you don’t like the 1978 film – “Superman: The Movie” – that is great – but you don’t need to trash it.

In regards to a Superman related thread which I read years ago… I am commenting now:
I don’t care if you don’t like the music towards the end of the film… you don’t need to comment that. The fact that you only play the first CD – and not the second… please; keep that to yourself!


This thread is called "Why don't you like Williams' scores?".

That means that the author of the thread wants to know why some people doesn't particularly enjoy JW's scores.

You have to deal with that, feeling heartbroken or not.

You mean people should not respond to this thread, because you love Williams?

It's not like people are shredding the guy apart with unrespectful comments (which, by the way, Zimmer gets all the time, and which seems to be tolerated here).

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2021 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I normally do not go into these kind of discussions…
I realise that this is a place where people are free to write any opinion, they care for…
My comment here is not exactly related to this thread…
However; I have always been questioning myself:

“When a soundtrack gets released – (for example) – and there are people – who basically feel like they have just won the lottery – because one of their holy grails just got released…
…my questions are:

1) If you are a person; who does NOT care for the score which has been released – why would you waste your time viewing the thread?


Maybe, maybe not, would depend if I am for whatever reason interested in the score, regardless of whether I like it.


2) Even more so – why would you waste your time advising the people that you never cared much for that score??


I understand you point of view, in many ways I agree with you. You will find that I much more often post about something that I champion or endorse, and much less frequently about something I don't like or just don't get. But it's valid to talk about things one does not like or enjoy.

I'm a reductionist, and try to keep things in focus.
What's the purpose music? At it's most basic, it's purpose is to be enjoyed. So anyone who enjoys a particular piece of music is in the right by default in my view over one who does not. It's better to enjoy something than to not enjoy something.

So in an ideal, perfect world, I would enjoy every single piece of music there is. Now, I don't, and probably nobody does. There are sometimes pieces of music I love, some I kinda like, and some I can take or leave, and some I don't like.
But if somebody champions and endorses a piece of music I don't like, I'm more often than not willing to listen, because perhaps I could start to like that piece of music then too. Doesn't always happen, but it does happen. So in those cases where I don't like a piece of music and post about it, more often than not it is basically to evoke the response of those who do. Perhaps I could learn something, and in the best of worlds, start liking that piece of music too.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2021 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

There's a lot of threads I don't comment on because the musical styling isn't of interest to me. I'll critique a composer when I feel his work is uninspired or repetitive, compared to their earlier works.

 
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