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 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yet another Goldsmith soundtrack that, despite the JG bias of this board, has not had a separate thread. This is #13 in my collection.

I think the march is pretty good (although nowhere near as catchy as a good Williams fanfare...but let's leave that for now), but the soundtrack is otherwise somewhat boring. PATTON, with which it is frequently compared, fares much better in terms of psychological depth and problematization.

But a decent album, overall. Presentation, performance & sound is good.


 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

I love MacArthur. I think there's some great introspective writing in this score. The Landing remains a personal favorite of mine.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member)

Yet another Goldsmith soundtrack that, despite the JG bias of this board, has not had a separate thread. This is #13 in my collection.

I think the march is pretty good (although nowhere near as catchy as a good Williams fanfare...but let's leave that for now), but the soundtrack is otherwise somewhat boring. PATTON, with which it is frequently compared, fares much better in terms of psychological depth and problematization.

But a decent album, overall. Presentation, performance & sound is good.


I think this score is fabulous. Very catchy theme, along the lines of Goldsmith's memorable Rock theme from In Harm's Way. The bridge of the main theme is where Goldsmith really shines, going somewhere you don't expect it. The warm introspective cues are what the score is all about. Wonderful string and percussion writing. I love the piano in this.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

I never played this much but a few weeks ago revisited it and it's amazing to me that what is generally considered an average effort from Goldsmith's 70's output comes out as bloody brilliant in this day and age. I found it lean and dense with narrative meaning. None of that filler that you get with so many contemprary scores. Every cue and note seemed to be a deliberate statement... had a reason and a meaning. After it's brief run I was left, as I am with so many Goldsmith scores, that it was the work of a composer was thinking about the subject of the film rather than simply reacting to the film itself.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

It's a pretty daunting task to create a score to another war film about a great war hero that doesn't rip-off the fantasic work done for a previous effort. PATTON is the better of the two scores and films. I can only applaud Goldsmith for composing a another military score that doesn't rely on the greatness of PATTON.

MaCARTHUR is more introspective and moody.

It would be nice to hear the original tracks, but I know the Universal situation.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Morlock1   (Member)

Patton is vastly superior in every way. MacArthur is rather negligable, a fine score, but rather unremarkable except for the theme (which also is not a highlight of anyone's career).

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I still wish I could get hold of a copy of this since it's now my most wanted Goldsmith title that's had a CD release, but alas those e-bay auctions just push it a bit out of my range for now.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

While MacArthur,the film, is inferior to Patton there are many splendid elements in MacArthur including Peck's excellent portrayal. Jerry Goldsmith's music is not good it is Great!!

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2004 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

I like both Patton and MacArthur scores. I don't understand this need to pit one against the other, like junkyard dogs. They are both good scores and do different things in their respective films. Goldsmith obviously felt highly enough of his MacArthur and Patton themes to include them in his concert repertoire for many years.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2004 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Besides which, I find each's theme every bit as "catchy" as a "good Williams fanfare." [Indisputably, they're better thematically.]

DH

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2004 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Morlock1   (Member)

[Indisputably, they're better thematically.]

DH


Really? I dispute that, and say it's total and utter crap.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2004 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Really? I dispute that, and say it's total and utter crap.

To quote Shatner from Boston Legal, "That's because you're a moron."

Dan

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2004 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Morlock1   (Member)

To quote Walter Sobchak from Big Lebowski: "You're out of your element"

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2004 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

Two men enter. One man leaves. This is the most basic tenet of Thunderdome...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2004 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

What about that big thing in MacArthur's mouth, though. What's that supposed to be? A crocket mallet?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2004 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   betenoir   (Member)

What about that big thing in MacArthur's mouth, though. What's that supposed to be? A crocket mallet?

That would have been "roquet mallet."

Actually it is his trademark corncob pipe.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

We really need, if not an expansion (the Varese album has most of the score and is only really missing things like the title march variation and some source cues), a rerelease with this and with better sound quality.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

We really need, if not an expansion (the Varese album has most of the score and is only really missing things like the title march variation and some source cues), a rerelease with this and with better sound quality.

Absolutely agree. Long overdue.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

Yet another Goldsmith soundtrack that, despite the JG bias of this board...

I think the march is pretty good (although nowhere near as catchy as a good Williams fanfare....



A great way to start a thread. Oy.


The comparison with PATTON is meaningless in judging the work on its own. (There is no comparable thematic material in terms of PATTON's 'mythic' element, and nothing like the German march.) If one strips away the publicity cooked up by the packagers, these scores are so far apart AS scores that they work as examples of how one composer can take apparently similar movie subjects--focus on an American commanding officer during WW2--and treat them so differently. No one compares Goldsmith's THE DETECTIVE with CHINATOWN every time the subject of one or the other comes up, because that would make about as much sense as comparing these two scores. MacARTHUR can't get a clear assessment if people keep up this silly comparison.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

A great way to start a thread. Oy.

Responding to an eight year old post by Thor is... just not a good idea for anyone.

 
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