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 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Hmm, the threads that exist are either about bootlegs or the Graeme Revell ordeal. So here's one about the soundtrack. This is #42 in my JG collection.

This is another favourite of mine, and in many ways it's a better listening experience than THE MUMMY (even though that is a fav too). Not so bombastic, relatively speaking.

I love "The Fire Dragon" and the heavy beat in many tracks. Goldsmith's guess at viking music may be as good as anyone else's.

Cool stuff!


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Right on, this is one of my absolute favorite Goldsmith scores, right up there with First Knight

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Monterey Jack   (Member)

Of all of Goldsmith's work from his "twilight years", this may come the closest to his 70's prime. Terrific action cues and some gorgeous themes. Less goofy than the similar The Mummy. I think the movie itself is underrated. What I wouldn't give to see John McTiernan's original 3-hour cut.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)

Of all of Goldsmith's work from his "twilight years", this may come the closest to his 70's prime. Terrific action cues and some gorgeous themes. Less goofy than the similar The Mummy. I think the movie itself is underrated. What I wouldn't give to see John McTiernan's original 3-hour cut.


I'd sooner have knitting needles shoved up my nose, BUT, the music is wonderful in so many ways.... I'd list them, but no one wants to really DISCUSS music here, they just want to say "I like it" or "I don't like it".

.........very frustrating when it comes to an in depth understanding et al.


 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

This is probably my favorite of Goldsmith's scores since Total Recall. There isn't a dull moment. I just don't understand how anybody could possibly have edited "Valhalla/Viking Victory" the way that it was in the film. Ridiculous.

But the CD is outstanding.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)


I'd sooner have knitting needles shoved up my nose, BUT, the music is wonderful in so many ways.... I'd list them, but no one wants to really DISCUSS music here, they just want to say "I like it" or "I don't like it".
.........very frustrating when it comes to an in depth understanding et al.


Een though I can't discuss the technical aspects of the music, I'm eager to read & learn.

As for the movie, "knitting needles" isn't much discussion either. :b
I found Crichton's book, and thus the movie, an interesting adaptation of Beowulf-- a rationalization.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Oblicno   (Member)

I saw the film a couple of times, and thought it was decent. Liked the idea. Read the book. You can get through it in a day, and it's interesting ideas, and the Arab character becomes much more involved in the Viking traditions.

It took me a few spins to like the Arabian music at the beginning. I really liked the muscular music like Viking Heads and the Fire Dragon, it's just so powerful it drives you along with it. One of my favourite Goldsmith's.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

The fire Dragon is one of the best Goldsmith action cues in the last 10 years, you actually get exhausted just listening to it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2005 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

The only problem I had at first with the Arabic music was that it was a bit too close to that in the Mummy-- but then, both projects were rather close, at least release-wise.

The action music is truly very intense.
Seeing the scenes on the big screen with that music was quite an experience, I remember. A great theme combined with ominous & relentless pounding; excellent action-writing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2005 - 12:33 AM   
 By:   El Cid   (Member)

This is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores. My only - minor! - gripe with this CD is that it could use an "end credit suite" to round it out. (Goldsmith didn't record one).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2005 - 12:55 AM   
 By:   Tom   (Member)

I for one thought the film was really very, very good and very underrated. As far as the score goes, it is a truly awesome and powerful score that starts with a great main theme and ends with one as well.

The more I listen, the better it gets(like Poltergeist)

**** for both score and film

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2005 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

A brilliant score that will always be in my top ten.

Like the best of Goldsmith's later work the music ebbs and flows - almost breathes. It has such power and majesty, but not pomp or bombast.

The cue for the wounded soldier brought a tear to my eye before I'd even seen the film - Jerry's genius is very much missed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2005 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   bedhead   (Member)

I've ordered this based on your opinions, not having seen the film. I'm a sucker for exotic scores in the same vein as THE MUMMY and WIND AND THE LION and hope I won't be disappointed. I'm holding you guys responsible, now...
eek

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2005 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I've ordered this based on your opinions, not having seen the film. I'm a sucker for exotic scores in the same vein as THE MUMMY and WIND AND THE LION and hope I won't be disappointed. I'm holding you guys responsible, now...
eek


I'm almost tempted to say, "if you don't like it I'LL give you a refund"! Almostsmile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2005 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   Jaquandor   (Member)

I've ordered this based on your opinions, not having seen the film. I'm a sucker for exotic scores in the same vein as THE MUMMY and WIND AND THE LION and hope I won't be disappointed. I'm holding you guys responsible, now...
eek


It's a good score, but if you're forming your expectations around THE WIND AND THE LION, you may be disappointed. 13TH WARRIOR is nowhere near as good.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2005 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)

I've ordered this based on your opinions, not having seen the film. I'm a sucker for exotic scores in the same vein as THE MUMMY and WIND AND THE LION and hope I won't be disappointed. I'm holding you guys responsible, now...
eek




You will like it.... I'm a tough audience, and I think it is marvelous music for a film that should never have been made.


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2005 - 2:14 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Should have never been made? It's a great story, and while the movie isn't perfect, I think it's perfect movie-material.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2005 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Jaquandor, if you compare most of the stuff out there with Wind and the Lion, it'll usually come up short. That score is just brilliant.

I have found The Thirteenth Warrior to be continually entertaining for years, though. The Viking theme is one of my favorites of Goldsmith's output of the nineties.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2005 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Jaquandor   (Member)

I have found The Thirteenth Warrior to be continually entertaining for years, though. The Viking theme is one of my favorites of Goldsmith's output of the nineties.

Oh, I certainly didn't want to sell THIRTEENTH WARRIOR short. It is a very fine score indeed, with terrific sound on the CD (and generous running time, too).

The movie, though, is complete dreck, which is a shame; it's the kind of bad movie that suggests the really good movie that could have resulted had everyone bothered to get on the same page before they started filming.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2005 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)

Should have never been made? It's a great story, and while the movie isn't perfect, I think it's perfect movie-material.


I read the book many years ago... it is a personal narrative based on sketchy historical material at best... often very obscure and open to great interpretation (mean: what the hell was this guy writing about?).

It was made into a film based on the box office of Jurrasic Park... it didn't have much to offer as a movie.... which it proved since nothing made any sense and a great deal of it eventually was made up out of whole cloth.

I, personally, was disappointed, but then I knew somethig wrong when teh buzz was negative from the start before this thing was released. EVenHollywood didn't know what to CALL IT or make of it...



 
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