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 Posted:   Jul 18, 2005 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I just learned that Young Bess has been released in extended form by a shady German label, you all know who I mean ! I hope that Lukas can beat these bums,by giving us some hopeful indication that FSM will give us a legit release of this fine score soon ?

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2005 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

I just learned that Young Bess has been released in extended form by a shady German label, you all know who I mean ! I hope that Lukas can beat these bums,by giving us some hopeful indication that FSM will give us a legit release of this fine score soon ?

We have not started on such a project but I have always planned on doing it. Avoid shady German bootlegs!!!
LK

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2005 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

What about the Prometheus release?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2005 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)



We have not started on such a project but I have always planned on doing it. Avoid shady German bootlegs!!!
LK



Will do! Looking forward to YOUNG BESS...

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2005 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)

This label has also issued "The Killers", which is Universal. However, I can't understand why they continue to do M-G-M and Warner titles, if there are by far more competent people who can do this.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2005 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   tobid   (Member)

Just checked the bootleg label's homepage. The tracklisting says YOUNG BESS has a total running time of 75:38. Prometheu's release is 55:15 in lenght. The bootleg however contains 4 alternate cues, 7 source cues and a suite from THE RED HOUSE, so I doubt there is much new music. Is the score longer to make a FSM release necessary? I was thinking about ordering YOUNG BESS soon (Prometheus, of course), so it would be nice to know.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2005 - 1:54 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

My money will be on the FSM Young Bess.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2005 - 1:57 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Hmmmm...I just watched this a few weeks ago (excellent film btw!), and everything that was on the Prometheus CD was accounted for. I didn't hear anything missing, so an FSM release would probably update the sound, as the other disc was sourced from mono tapes (right?), and probably wasn't fully legit.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2005 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Young Bess music was recorded in stereo but duped in mono only years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2010 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Last month, "Young Bess" was finally released on DVD as a made-on-demand disc from the Warner Archive Collection. I don't know if the film presentation is in stereo. (The FSM Rosza Box CD of the score is in mono, since those were the only music elements preserved.)

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2023 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I was enjoying listening to the Bernstein-conducted FSM disc of Young Bess today for the first time in ages (I usually play the soundtrack version also from FSM). I'm not sure if this was asked previously, but in Track 9 of the Bernstein disc (DESPERATE LOVE / CROSSROADS / CATHERINE PARR'S END) at about 2:16 and for a few seconds thereafter, there is what I assumed was very pronounced CD mis-tracking.
But later listening to the very same piece on Spotify, the same "fault" is apparent in the same place. That suggests the fault is in the source material, but it sounds much more like a skipping CD error than tape damage to my amateur ears.
Can others confirm the skipping is simply a tape defect, and not a batch problem on some but not all the discs?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2023 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

I don’t hear any defect at 2:16 on. I played it twice from the 2 minute mark. Nothing but music.

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2023 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I don’t hear any defect at 2:16 on. I played it twice from the 2 minute mark. Nothing but music.


Thanks for checking your copy. However, apart from my copy, the one on Spotify exhibits the same effect in the same place in Track 9. Like three or four skips in swift succession.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2023 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

I don’t hear any defect at 2:16 on. I played it twice from the 2 minute mark. Nothing but music.


Thanks for checking your copy. However, apart from my copy, the one on Spotify exhibits the same effect in the same place in Track 9. Like three or four skips in swift succession.


I checked my copy - no skips or artifacts at the point you cite. Perhaps there was a run of discs with defects, including the one used for Spotify?

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2023 - 8:41 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)



I checked my copy - no skips or artifacts at the point you cite. Perhaps there was a run of discs with defects, including the one used for Spotify?



Thanks again. Looks like it might be as you suggest.
Some small consolation... according to the supplementary notes of the Rozsa Treasury edition, the particular section of music in question wasn't used in the final film and was "apparently the only significant piece of music left on the cutting-room floor".

And here's something slightly amusing... I see that the track correctly listed as "Eavesdropping" in the FSM editions is listed in the Tsunami release as "Eve's Dropping".

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2023 - 10:06 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

No defects on my copy, I'm happy to say. Sorry about yours.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2023 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   Dr Smith   (Member)

What about Disc 6 in the Mikos Rozsa Treasury Box Set?
It contains over 62 minutes of the score plus 15 additional minutes of extras.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2023 - 5:22 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

I checked out both my own copy and on Spotify and detected no skips, and no difference between them. There is an instrument that seems like it could be making you think it skips, but it for sure isn't a defect or anything.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2023 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I checked out both my own copy and on Spotify and detected no skips, and no difference between them. There is an instrument that seems like it could be making you think it skips, but it for sure isn't a defect or anything.

Yes there’s a string instrument being plucked at that point three times which I think Basil has misinterpreted.

 
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