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 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 3:03 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



To summarize my feelings of this Malick movie: You can take it or leave it. HOWEVER, may take the challenge and re-watch to see if lone-viewing opinion from turn of the millennium [cool] holds.


As I said, to me, it became a great movie once I watched it a second time, far more probing and deep than most movies dare to go. It's true that the movie does not just "take sides" and tell you "this is the lead", "this is the good guy", "this is the terrible Sergeant". There are so many stars in this movie (since they all wanted to work with Terrence Malick), but on second viewing, it worked very well. On first viewing it was a lot "oh, look, there's Woody Harrelson", "oh, look, there's George Clooney"... but on second viewing that did not matter anymore. Because all the characters were somehow important, and all the characters were somehow unimportant as well... they are in this world and fade, some appreciate the beauty of it more than others, some do their duty, some consider it a duty to question their duty, some are on the fence... whatever, the movie has an immense scope and the beauty of the movie is a big, big part of its point, it's not gratuitous. It's almost up to the viewer to decide whose story interests them. As far as WWII movie are concerned, I like Saving Private Ryan, but The Thin Red Line is in a class of its own. (Though it isn't any more a WWII movie really than Apocalypse Now is a Vietnam War movie, the wars are just backdrops.) And whereas the jungle world in Apocalypse Now became an increasingly nightmarish hellhole, the world in The Thin Red Line is Paradise... (as in Paradise Lost, because man can't help but kill each other, no matter how beautiful everything is).
But it's definitely a movie to watch on the big (TV) screen in full HD.

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

Terence Malick. There's no middle ground.

Heh. So very true.

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



To summarize my feelings of this Malick movie: You can take it or leave it. HOWEVER, may take the challenge and re-watch to see if lone-viewing opinion from turn of the millennium [cool] holds.



. On first viewing it was a lot "oh, look, there's Woody Harrelson", "oh, look, there's George Clooney"... but on second viewing that did not matter anymore.
.


Exactly!
Also, on first viewing i
was preoccupied with figuring out who was doing the narration.
On second viewing i didn't obsess
bro

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

PHEW! Thought I had killed yet another thread. You guys are getting me juiced about a fresh viewing having come relatively late to the Malick oeuvre and mystique. But at least I got there and in a pretty solid way.

[if you need convincing re "late" get a load of this thread
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=14631&archive=1 roll eyes]

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Witt became the hero only after the Dear John letter had him adopting an "I have nothing to live for" attitude.

Correction...Private Bell (Ben Chaplin) was the soldier who received the Dear John letter (and this was actually after his moments of finding heroism, incidentally). Witt was always an altruistic, brave soldier -- I personally wouldn't call him a "hero" necessarily but just deeply and unconditionally committed to Charlie Company, who he admitted early on in the film that he loved: "They're my people."

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I am pretty sure the film never mentions Guadalcanal.

i love that!

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

why you say it will never happen?

maybe it will...we don know.

It's my favorite Zimmer score... a true holly grail for me, and I'm sure for other too.
Maybe if Zimmer himself gets involved. He loves this score, by interviews I perceive it is his most transcendent score for him.


Listening to the You Tube music linked above you can also hear a symphonic transcription of the Faure piece heard at the beginning.

release this!!!

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2017 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Witt became the hero only after the Dear John letter had him adopting an "I have nothing to live for" attitude.

Correction...Private Bell (Ben Chaplin) was the soldier who received the Dear John letter (and this was actually after his moments of finding heroism, incidentally). Witt was always an altruistic, brave soldier -- I personally wouldn't call him a "hero" necessarily but just deeply and unconditionally committed to Charlie Company, who he admitted early on in the film that he loved: "Their my people."


Ah, merci. A second viewing should clarify whomever/whatever, etc. in m'mind.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2017 - 12:03 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Witt became the hero only after the Dear John letter had him adopting an "I have nothing to live for" attitude.

Correction...Private Bell (Ben Chaplin) was the soldier who received the Dear John letter (and this was actually after his moments of finding heroism, incidentally). Witt was always an altruistic, brave soldier -- I personally wouldn't call him a "hero" necessarily but just deeply and unconditionally committed to Charlie Company, who he admitted early on in the film that he loved: "Their my people."


Ah, merci. A second viewing should clarify whomever/whatever, etc. in m'mind.


Who did you quote? It obviously wasn't me. I would never be as callous and wantonly careless as to misspell "They're my people" as "Their my people." Surely you're computer has a glitch. I would take it in to be serviced pronto!

EDIT: Haha, and then I posted that and realized I actually typed "Surely you're computer" instead of "Surely your computer." I'm leaving it in the post because I'm so tickled by my language arts shenanigans. You can't make this stuff up, folks!

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2017 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

If you're trying to gaslight me I'm now immune after having dealt with Faiola & Jones, Inc. on the Frankenstein...Wolf Man thread. eek

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 3:22 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I am pretty sure the film never mentions Guadalcanal.

i love that!



Just once.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Actually twice. Nolte once, Penn once (when he reads the letter informing them of a week's leave). Just finished the second viewing. wink

And I'm glad I did see it again so many years later. Most of what I opined the first time pretty much holds. I see why I'd confused the Caz and Chaplin characters re Dear John letter, it's because of a resemblance from certain angles. Still found myself having to focus in and make sure who was who.

Anyway, the best thing about now is seeing it within the context of the overall Malick output. As much as it didn't change my mind it did solidify my appreciation for Malick as auteur. He found his poetic mark by relying ultimately more and more on the voiceover thing. Of course this is also why naysayers say nay. It is the "risk" he's taken by going full meditative.

I happen to like his approach. That's all.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2017 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Actually twice. Nolte once, Penn once (when he reads the letter informing them of a week's leave). Just finished the second viewing. wink



There, then. I should have said "at least once" and covered myself just in case I'd nodded off at some point smile


Heck of a way to celebrate your birthday!

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2017 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Funny you should mention it. My folks first met while he was in training. And he ended up in the Western Pacific. So the movie resonates on another level. After all, if it hadn't been for the great big WWII they wouldn't have met and there would be no birth to talk about!

Yeesh.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Bumped for commcommiserating

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2019 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Heads up for fans of.the film- and Malick fans in general.

A new book TERRENCE MALICK: Rehearsing the Unexpected is now available.

Don't be fooled by the title; this is NOT a dull academic treatise ( sorry, Thor and Marky wink.
Rather it is.mostly an oral history of his life and films ( sans TM of course) as told by his collaborators.

Tons of fascinating material on TRL. Didn't know the whole ' Witt with Melanesians' was an invention of the screenwriter.

Check it out!

Bruce

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2019 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Welsh: this is the only world you got.
With: You're wr I wrong. I seen another world.

To me that is the key dialog in the film and underlines the main theme of the.film.

Brilliant.

 
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