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Nino Rota's estate took James Horner (or his representatives) to court for an issue surrounding the latter's score for Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Supposedly it ripped off one of Rota's scores. I think it was settled out of court.
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someone post the dead horse gif
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I think Prokofiev would take Horner to court, were he still alive...
Holst is dead, but that hasn't stopped his estate trying to sort Hans Zimmer out regarding his Gladiator score.
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I thought it was Raymond Scott. HISTK directly used the well knmown tune Powerhouse -- though I think in this case Horner may have actually thought it was PD (I read this somewhere, possibly because all those WB cartoons use it), rather than a case of him using almost the same music.
-Joshua
Maybe Scott sued Horner as well, but the Rota example I was referring to had to do with Horner's use of Rota's theme from Amarcord. I just checked, and they were successful in the suit (which, technically, was against Disney, and not Horner) too!
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Nino Rota's estate took James Horner (or his representatives) to court for an issue surrounding the latter's score for Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Supposedly it ripped off one of Rota's scores. I think it was settled out of court.
It should be called Nino, I Stole the Theme.
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Maybe Scott sued Horner as well, but the Rota example I was referring to had to do with Horner's use of Rota's theme from Amarcord. I just checked, and they were successful in the suit (which, technically, was against Disney, and not Horner) too!
Honey I Shrunk the Kids has the distinction of having been the subject of two plagiarism suits, one from Scott and one from Rota.
I think someone sued Universal over Williams's ET, but I've forgotten who it was now (and in any case they were unsuccessful).
It was widely-reported at the time that Enya had sued over Horner's Titanic, but the outcome was never reported (so presumably it was settled out of court, or quietly dropped).
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Honey I Shrunk the Kids has the distinction of having been the subject of two plagiarism suits, one from Scott and one from Rota.
Another theme also comes from The Goonies. It's the one you've got before the bee and the ant scenes.
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It's not a plagiarism suit, but there was the recent (last five years or so) suit over Monty Norman's ownership of the James Bond theme. I don't remember who the plaintiff / defendents were and if John Barry was one of them.
That case was in 1998, if I remember correctly. The previous year the Sunday Times newspaper had published an article in which they explicitly gave sole credit for the composition of the James Bond Theme to John Barry. Monty Norman didn't like this at all, and filed a suit against the publishers of the newspaper. Barry was merely a witness for the paper's defence; he was NOT a respondent in the action at all.
Of course, the case was resolved in Norman's favour, and supposedly settled the matter of the ownership of the James Bond Theme once and for all. But we all know...
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It was widely-reported at the time that Enya had sued over Horner's Titanic, but the outcome was never reported (so presumably it was settled out of court, or quietly dropped).
This it what Enya herself said in an Cinefonia interview:
"When I hear Rose or Southampton, I hear James Horner and not Enya, thematically as well as harmonically and especially orchestrally. And if James Cameron influenced James Horner in his approach, this can only satisfy me."
"Quel est votre avis sur Southampton et la partition de James Horner?
Que voulez-vous que je vous réponde. C'est un compositeur que j'admire totalement et ceux qui ont voulu nous opposer à cause de Southampton ou de ses choix vocaux n'ont jamais pu le faire. Tout simplement parce que j'aurais bien été incapable d'écrire la moindre note pour un film comme celui-ci, les images étant trop fortes, trop puissantes, trop belles. Aussi parce que je refuse toute étiquette sur ma musique et que mon style est à la disposition de tous, comme celui des autres au mien. Puis quand j'entends Rose ou Southampton, j'entends du James Horner et non du Enya, aussi bien thématiquement qu'harmoniquement et surtout orchestralement. Et si James Cameron a influencé James Horner dans son approche, je ne peux que m'en satisfaire et en être fortement flattée."
One of those James Horner urban legends.
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Yo, It's cool you noticed some similarities between Tyler's 300 and Goldenthal's Titus. Wondering why people still don't launch any app for plagiarism check in movies. Why not? There are lots of plagiarism checkers for papers, like https://noplag.com/ or any other. But it must be really hard to bring to life. Anyway, every film is not something totally new, i think you can often find some similar things, but these movies are still unique and fresh.
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Yes, there were lawsuits and consequences for "300". The studio, at the time, even put up a page about it on their site. Entire cues from various composers were lifted; Zimmer, Goldenthal, Yared's rejected score to "Troy", others I don't recall.
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