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 Posted:   Feb 8, 2002 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Yeah, I wonder about it. I also wonder why "they" don't perform the same spell on Spike!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2002 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

If anyone's interested, here's a link to Jeff Jensen's (Entertainment Weekly) write-up of that last Buffy, which he cites as perhaps the best of year six to date. Well, I'm definitely on board with him:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/
commentary/0,6115,199734~3~0~,00.html


Sorry, you'll have to cut 'n paste--in two pieces--if that's even possible.



One of the things which has me absolutely flabbergasted is that I'm hearing that many fans hated this past episode. For one, they feel cheated that Buffy didn't turn out to be some demon or monster. Why? Wasn't the twist--with its exposing an unanticipated, troubled new dimension to Buffy's state of mind--far more interesting than any ol' beastie?

Beyond that, it's being met with that ages old damning owing to its being downbeat and sad. Tragedy, that scourge of drama!




--Coop

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2002 - 2:19 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Sorry, Coop. I was none of those things.

I begrudge no one his or or her total enjoyment of the current season.

But I'm totally not convinced about this season's quality. Perhaps in time, when I've revisited some of the episodes....

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2002 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)





Even having loved the show in the past, I could never have conceived they'd ever grow so ambitiuos as to attempt some of the things they've been doing on Buffy with character, psychology, the various ballsy stylistic choices, the maturity and daring of the subject matter, etc. On many counts--which isn't to say there's necessarily been a consistent "greatness"--my wildest expectations for the show have been eclipsed. I've never feared too long whether they'll find a way to top themselves; it's simply a matter of how they eventually pull it off. Of course, that can't go on forever...and if it all went to hell tomorrow, I'd still think it's been a great ride.

That said, there were moments in "Dead Things," this most recent episode, which rank--for me--not only among the season's best, but the series' as well.


--Coop

 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2002 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I took a long weekend (today is a holiday where I work) and among the things I enjoyed was the first season of Buffy on DVD.

Interestingly enough, I discovered something that amazed. The first person to reveal the name of "Angel" was Xander. In the first two episodes, the only thing he told Buffy about himself (to her query, "Who are you?") was "A friend."

In the third episode, Xander is with Willow and Buffy and he starts in on something mentioning Angel's name. Angel only popped up on rare occasions in the beginning. I think it's odd, though, that the name "Angel" would be introduced through Xander.

And, since there is memory in Buffy's writerland, how many of you recall the final scene in the episode "Teacher's Pet" (about the human-sized preying mantis) -- where we are treated to a lingering shot of eggs about to hatch? To my knowledge, no followup has been done on that....

We are to be treated to another NEW episode tonight and it looks to be fun....at least, for Sunnydale.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2002 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)



What really blows me away--I think in the same episode (and I've mentioned this before)--is Angel's line to Darla: "...last time I saw you, you were wearing a Kimono," or something to that effect. And, if the chronology is right, I think they actually depicted the scene in an episode of Angel which would've been the last time Angel and Darla were together before she popped up on Buffy. And, of course, she was in a Kimono. This is all skectchy in my mind, but I think Darla was hoping Angel would prove himself--his pesky soul be damned--by dining on a baby. He bolts, and that's about it. Am I right on this? At any rate, amazing attention to detail and history of characters.

So, Ron, what do you think about "The Pack"? I think I've asked you about this episode before. Gets my vote for the best of Season One.



--Coop

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2002 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Well, it certainly stands out from Season 1 as one of the all-time great "Buffys" in my book.

Especially excellent is the group dynamic of the the students exposed to the spell. With the exception of Xander, they were already a mean-spirited clique. It's interesting that Xander seemed more of a leader of that pack after the spell, when he wasn't really their "kind" before it.

It's also the episode that cost us the original principal (one of THE great things about the first season was the lead-up to the introduciton of Snyder (sp?). It also heralded that Xander as a character had a great deal of depth (superbly played by Nicholas Brendon). We've only seen that one other time, that I recall...when we had the "two" Xanders last season (was it last season...or the one before???).

In that first season, I'm more inclined to favor the final episode, in which Buffy refuses to fulfill the prophesy of meeting the master and dying -- until she sees how frightened Willow is. This seemed to me to define Buffy's first moment of clarity as The Slayer -- the time when she first realized that like-it-or-not, she was the only one who could stop what was about to happen.

It's also the first time she slugged Rupert to stop him from doing something stupid.

Favorite line: "I may be dead, but I'm still pretty."

I also liked all the varied comments she got on her dress -- especially the Master's "Nice dress" as he flung her down, face first, into the water.

And to the suggestion at the very end that everyone go to the Spring Fling to celebrate, a scratched, wet and soiled Buffy said:

"I don't see why not. I got all pretty."

(Or was it, "Might as well. I got all pretty." ?)

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2002 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I really liked last night's "Buffy" -- go figure. For all the hair-tossing and pouting, Dawn actually got her point across...and now her shoplifting SECRET is out in the open.

Willow also had a secret (stash) revealed! Anya let fly that she'd gladly regain her demon self ("Get the amulet!") which would most likely put an end to her and Xander, unless some changes were made!!!

NOW....I guess we're being set up for the big "EWWWWWWWWWWW" the Scoobie gang will undoubtedly unleash when Buffy's secret about Spike gets out!!!!

That was one fast-paced program last night!

Now...will Buffy keep the leather jacket? : )

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2002 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


Dawn should keep the leather jacket; looked good on her.


And, Ron, this week Jeff Jensen's column addresses his beef with Dawn, if you're interested (copy 'n paste)

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,202972~3~0~,00.html

(the board should be plenty wide enough to accomodate this link in one line...)


I'll have to rewatch the episode because I was rudely interrupted, mid-Buffy, by a phone call. But, my fears of Tara being written out have been put to rest, especially since she's Buffy's special new confidante. If the relationship with Willow is rekindled, it'll be interesting to see how she reponds to Tara being sworn to secrecy to another...Buffy, no less.

So, the "T" girl's back in the fold, big time, being looked upon by two ladies in the Buffyverse as a pillar of strength and stability. I just hope she doesn't buckle under the pressure.


--Coop

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2002 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Thanks for the referral, Coop. I like Jensen...he's pretty much saying what I've been feeling.

I also accessed the article on Nicholas Brendon (written last year before the end of Season 4) and learned that he has an IDENTICAL TWIN named Kelly who was in that episode in which there are two Xanders!!! There were no specifics, but I'm thinking the twin didn't actually do any acting (i.e. talking)but gave them some leeway when it came to transition shots so everything didn't have to be split screen.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2002 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)




Thread Maintenance; keeping 'er up near the top.


--Coop

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2002 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I can appreciate maintenance.

Meanwhile, last night's "Angel" was kind of fun -- especially Cordelia's dilemma with Groo...and the makeover was hilarious! Love it that she turned him into Angel!!

Wesley seems a bit forlorn...and there seems to be doom/gloom hanging over stuff.

I don't like the looks of that translation Wesley did -- about "the father will kill the son."

Of course, although the baby was fortold, it wasn't supposed to live, so this new bit can mean any number of things and I'm sure Angel won't be killing any kid.

I liked the bit under the park -- the life-sucking tree. I liked the way they had Angel putting down Groo, all the while teasing the tree into taking him.

It was a light episode, but perhaps the light before the storm???

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2002 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Ummm....Cooper....it was on page 2....intact so far as I can tell.....

 
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