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 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

It's been years since I've seen this movie but I do recall that it was a quite a fascinating chronicle of events up to Abraham.

The music was outstanding as I recall and I've always wanted to hear it apart from the film. Any chance of a release from FSM for this one? Or if there is already a legit release where can I find it?

The music was by Toshir├┤ Mayuzumi and Ennio Morricone (who went uncredited)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

There was a CD released by RCA years ago, but it's long out of print and fairly rare now I'd imagine. I've never seen the film, but I'd really like to hear what Mayuzumi came up with. I like what I've heard of his classical works, and I recently picked up his score to Yaj├╗ shisubeshi, which was a pretty nice jazz score.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

The CD is indeed out of print for a long time and I also believe that it features only the LP programme. Besides, these RCA releases are OPTi productions so it's I think very risky to pay a high price for something such.

It would be a great candidate for FSM treatment. However the LP was recorded in Italy and released on the Fox records, with the film being a Dino de Laurentiis/20th Century Fox production. This excludes FSM but maybe it could still happen on Intrada or Varese. Also, as far as I know, the Fox records catalogue has been sent by Fox to someone else so in case the LP wasn't a re-recording (about which I have no idea) this would make it more difficult, if not impossible, to see it expanded beyond the LP tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

Doug actually wrote about the score in his "Doug's Corner" section awhile back. I always wondered if that meant he might have looked into releasing it, but I never really got my hopes up since it doesn't seem like he cared for it too much.

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=559&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=7da6a69cf469b428f103286858f1bcb6

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I like this score. I didn't have the CD, but I made my own not-so-perfect CDR transfer from the old album.

The main theme is a waltz, but it works, a sort of waltz through history, or if you like a Hindu 'dance of creation'. The whole score has a sombre modern feel, quite classical, but also post-impressionistic when it needs to be. The film was to have been scored by various people, including Miklos Rozsa who allegedly disliked the result, but the blend that Mayuzumi uses is just right. A totally leitmotif score would not have worked here: 'order out of chaos' needs not just that, though there are good themes, notably a horn fanfare repeated at various points.

One track on the album is an abridged version of the film's 'Creation' sequence played under Genesis narration by Huston himself. Huston played Noah too, and his comical march as the animals enter the ark is a bit reminiscent of Williams' 'March of the Villains' in terms of irony. The treatment of the Sodom and Gomorrah tale was perfect in terms of 'message' ... a mushroom cloud says it all as the city goes up.

But critics hated its episodic feel as a movie, as though it should conform to some predictable 'creative writing 101' formula of plot development. O'Toole plays all three of the anthropomorphic 'angels' in archetypally correct colour-coded costumes. Huston intended a whole series of Bible films, and I suspect O'Toole was to have been Christ in the last, but this first offering was as far as they got.

Very nice art-direction throughout. Huston got around the slow genealogical passages by the clever visual device of having 'ancestors' seem to stand on each other's shoulders in a sort of ziggurat formation! He tries a lot of psychological stuff too ... Abraham has a dream sequence where the 'flaming pot' swings between the split halves of the sacrificed bull, as in the episode in Genesis. Lesser directors would never even have attempted a shot like that. He liked challenges.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I've only ever heard the LP version of this score, although I never owned it, but I was fascinated. The music has a very heavy feel to it, the harmonics to the early portion having a "primitive" feel similar to that of The Rite of Spring.

Was the LP culled only from Mayuzumi's contribution, or was there any of Morricone's music on it as well?

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

The music has a very heavy feel to it, the harmonics to the early portion having a "primitive" feel similar to that of The Rite of Spring.

Was the LP culled only from Mayuzumi's contribution, or was there any of Morricone's music on it as well?


No, just the Mayuzumi. I remember some folk on the Rozsa forum discussing Morricone's contribution somewhere.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

Here's the original theatrical trailer. In it you can hear the main theme. Glorious I would say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krLB35Aqk98&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I liked this score and later when I caught up with some other Mayuzumi this fell right in with his approach towards music. As far as I know the couple of cues Morricone wrote for this were rejected, hence he was not hired to do the rest of the score. But, indeed, anybody can hear the one cut "The Mountain" on his SECRET OF THE SAHARA soundtrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2008 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   cushinglee   (Member)

I just shipped my eBayed copy. I wish someone had started this thread a week ago. The awareness might have upped the price.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

One of my favourites. Have the original Lp mono and stereo and the Italian CD. Would gladly pay big bucks for a complete edition.
Dense, atmospheric - and given Mayazumi's position as a 'modern' composer - very accessible in it's main themes.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Phenomional score. I have the Italian release of the score. Reminds me a great deal of Alex North circa Elliot Goldentahl.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Here's the original theatrical trailer. In it you can hear the main theme. Glorious I would say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krLB35Aqk98&feature=related


I think I was like 10 but can clearly recall the trailer on TV and that theme, of course. It really is a keeper.

One of the very few films of its kind that pretty much refrained from straying from the text.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I have the Italian CD and have enjoyed it. I believe the one difference between it and the LP (which I have never heard) is that the LP featured Huston's narration for the opening verses of Genesis which the CD deletes. The CD also features a longer Entr'acte than was in the film itself.

This was the last of the epic Biblical films that began two decades earlier with "Samson And Delilah" and it ended on a good note as I think the treatment was very well done.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   mistermike   (Member)

What is even more amazing -- there was actually a piano folio of music from this film:

http://www.mjq.net/filmus/bible.jpg

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   The Cat   (Member)

As far as I know the couple of cues Morricone wrote for this were rejected, hence he was not hired to do the rest of the score. But, indeed, anybody can hear the one cut "The Mountain" on his SECRET OF THE SAHARA soundtrack.

Not only that, Morricone milked it in several other projects and even based one of lesser known scores around these unused compositions. There is a whole fascinating story behind all this. Stay tuned.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

There was a cover version of 5 cuts from the score issued by MGM Records (SE-4417) in 1966 with the Metropolitan Pops Orchestra, conducted by Henri Rene I believe. The tracks were: Theme from The Bible, Cain and Abel, Abraham, Noah;' Ark, and Eve. The second side of the LP had music from The Ten commandments, Ben-Hur, King of Kings, and The Greatest Story Ever Told."

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....There was a cover version of 5 cuts from the score issued by MGM Records (SE-4417) in 1966 with the Metropolitan Pops Orchestra, conducted by Henri Rene I believe. The tracks were: Theme from The Bible, Cain and Abel, Abraham, Noah;' Ark, and Eve. The second side of the LP had music from The Ten commandments, Ben-Hur, King of Kings, and The Greatest Story Ever Told.".....


Gee.....I haven't thought about that or listened to it in 40 years. I'll have to dig it out and listen again, Bob.

When balanced against the soundtrack recordings, these kinds of cover LPs (including DOCTOR ZHIVAGO, LOST HORIZON-The Musical, HAWAII, THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD, AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS and more) almost always come off as second best, but some are fairly listenable.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2008 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   RyanPBrennan   (Member)

Mayuzumi's score for THE BIBLE is one of my all-time favorite scores. He succeeds in creating an epic musical accompaniment to the visual wonders of the film without sounding like any other Biblical or Religious Spectacular.

In fact, he creates an appropriately awesome effect, awe in the sense of alien and somewhat scary. The movie accomplishes something usually lacking in many films set in antiquity by imparting a sense of how much the ancient past would feel not just like a foreign country to our modern sensibilities but like another planet.

The Noah's ark sequence is easily the best segment of the film with director John Huston playing the role of Noah in a quizzical, humorous manner. Mayuzumi's music really shines here both as a companion to Noah's leading the animals into the ark and for the subsequent flood. The Tower of Bablyon vignette is another good sequence, Stephen Boyd decked out in odd eye make-up as Nimrod.

I found a laser disc of THE BIBLE many years for $3.00. I bought it just so I could use it to listen to the complete score. I wouldn't even turn the TV on, just ran the LD through my stereo for the listening experience.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2008 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

A marvelous score -- but so many highlights missing from the LP and CD. One that comes to mind is cinema's most awesome, Berliozian rendition of the "Dies Irae", for the expulsion from Eden sequence.

 
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