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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Star Trek Music Podcast by Jonathan Kaplan
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2009 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Sorry, but whose "Symphony No. 4" was mentioned in the podcast, after playing a brief excerpt? Couldn't make out the name but it sounded definitely interesting!

Ralph Vaughan Williams. All of his symphonies are standouts. I especially like his 5th and 7th Symphonies.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2009 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   RMD Music   (Member)

The fact that they skipped over everything following Generations is something that leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.

The fact that they outright dismissed it in the way that they did is nothing short of disgusting. Nevermind its Jerry Goldsmith - why is it that they can find the time to bash Horner and Rosenman but not say *anything* about the last three ST scores?

For people who turn their noses up at Rosenman's ego - they sure do a damn good job filling his shoes by acting the same way.


I was gonna write something to this matter, but it was done for me. Thank you, Leha. I think it was in poor taste and arrogant to skip over the last couple of Goldsmith scores. He wrote some beautiful music for those films. Certainly more interesting than what had come before--minus Wrath of Khan.
It wasn't an overview of the Star Trek music as it was a bunch of know-it-all film buffs giving their opinions. I do like the part where the scores are analyzed and discussed as to what makes a Star Trek score sounds Star Trek.
Well, if I'm to listen to these podcasts again, I would prefer less snotty wit and more analysis and information.
Oh, and I hope the Giacchino's score for the new ST movie is better than what they played. Lame theme.

RD

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2009 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Sorry, but whose "Symphony No. 4" was mentioned in the podcast, after playing a brief excerpt? Couldn't make out the name but it sounded definitely interesting!

Vaughan Williams and it might be the 6th? The one that's all over Jerry's TMP score!

LK

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2009 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

Some of the incidental cues sound like LOST with different doublings (like winds) or else the rhythmic cells that trail off to no where. I guess it's not possible for any composer working in the system these days to compose something melodic and memorable (that is fully developed).

There are surprises altogether more pleasant around the corner for you, David.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2009 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Vaughan Williams and it might be the 6th? The one that's all over Jerry's TMP score!

LK


It is indeed - all over the V'ger sequences. To be fair, though, Jerry developed it differently and Vaughn Williams himself reused some of the material in his SCOTT OF THE ANTARCTIC score which evolved into his next symphony: Sinfonia Antarctica.

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2009 - 2:44 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It wasn't an overview of the Star Trek music as it was a bunch of know-it-all film buffs giving their opinions.

I think that is, like, you know, the POINT of these podcasts.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2009 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Jostein_H   (Member)

I agree with Lehah on TURNING POINT. That is a FANTASTIC score, very Golden Age in fact. Max Steiner is an apt comparison.

Shame the game is a piece of shit but I guess it's like film music often is, good score, terrible film/game.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2009 - 2:15 AM   
 By:   Jostein_H   (Member)

At some point this message board gave up any pretense and just became the Jerry Goldsmith Fan 4 Life Message Boards.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2009 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Great podcast -- just finished listening. Interesting, there seems to be a movement sweeping the community of people who hear Goldenthal's BATMAN theme in MG's TREK.

Or is it Elfman's? I'm not that familiar with either, TBH, but I know their general sounds and modes, and, yes, it's a Batman, if not the Batman.

I had heard good things about this new movie, and it should've been a wonderful opportunity for some striking and original music to be written. Well, it seems that everybody chickened out AGAIN.... producer, director and composer. Anonymous, interchangeable, rewritten temp-track #2508.

Mainstream film music is a lost art. Period.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2009 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   Jostein_H   (Member)



Mainstream film music is a lost art. Period.


Might as well close the forum then?

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2009 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)



Might as well close the forum then?


Certainly not. I didn't say that film music was dead. Just lost. If it's lost, it can be found... although it's the philosophy of film music that needs to be rediscovered, rather than pretty notes.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2009 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

In listening to this excellent podcast again, it somehow felt wrong to have such a great audio documentary on my iPod without cover art, so I made some up - nothing too fancy but enjoy and feel free to use, nonetheless!:

 
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