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 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   Doug Andrews   (Member)

I tried to find more information about this in past threads, but it is just used as an example.
I have always liked this score, but what do other people think when comparing it to Kamen's
other works. Are the rights still locked by his family?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've always wanted to check out this score, but I have been unable to find it for all the years I've been a film score fan.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Miragliano   (Member)

I've always wanted to check out this score, but I have been unable to find it for all the years I've been a film score fan.

Well I can certainly find copies of the CD except they cost upwards of £70 or more on Amazon marketplace and considerably higher elsewhere. There are some available there right now if you're feeling particularly rich at the moment.

I love the score but i've only ever heard it in the film. It doesn't really sound like anything else he's done but that may be because I haven't heard the score seperately.

What's this rights thing mentioned earlier? Is there a legal problem that prevents a potential re-release?

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I don't think it's so much of a rights thing as just that the album went out of print. Like Brazil his previous score for Terry Gilliam, it's a strange mishmash of idioms but Kamen brings it together with with and style. The "Munchausen Waltz" is delightful. The album also has the full recital of the Sultan's opera (co-written by Eric Idle), complete with agony sounds.

If there is one complaint I have about the album, it's that individual cues are lined up into suites four or five at a time, but unlike most other Kamen discs, there are no index markers for each.

American prints of the film had a fanfare at the beginning under the Columbia Pictures logo that does not appear on the record.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

One of my favorite scores of all time (and films), and it's the only Kamen score that I can't live without.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

I think it is one of Kamen's best scores, and remarkably, he wrote it in two weeks. It is sometimes frenetic, sometimes goofy (particularly the cues for the Moon sequence) but also breathtakingly lyrical ("The Munchausen Waltz"), while the music for early the scenes at the Sultan's court have fun "Arabian Nights" quality. I'd agree it is a close cousin to Brazil, but is more stylistically varied.

Most of the score was recorded by the Gruanke (now Munich) Symphony, but the CD credits "Additional music performed by the National Philharmonic" but doesn't specify which cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Double post. embarrassment

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Mr Drive   (Member)

One of my favourites, too (music+film). Would buy a rerelease in a minute. Perfectly captures the wacky-heroic spirit of the movie. Delightful stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I've always wanted to check out this score, but I have been unable to find it for all the years I've been a film score fan.

Well I can certainly find copies of the CD except they cost upwards of £70 or more on Amazon marketplace and considerably higher elsewhere. There are some available there right now if you're feeling particularly rich at the moment.

I love the score but i've only ever heard it in the film. It doesn't really sound like anything else he's done but that may be because I haven't heard the score seperately.

What's this rights thing mentioned earlier? Is there a legal problem that prevents a potential re-release?



By sheer coincedence, this cd is available for sale in one of my threads in the trading post. It's far less than 70 pnds. Sterling. There is one small drawback however - Paypal.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   amatalqa   (Member)

Superb score. Rich with texture, melody, orchestra, brass, and quirkiness.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   Ed   (Member)

Brilliant. Silly. Majestic. "The Munchausen Waltz" (which I saw performed in Boston long ago) is a particular marvel, as is "The Balloon Sequence." Kamen's best work along with ROBIN HOOD. Kamen could deliver a winning melody whenever he felt he needed one and MUNCHAUSEN has many. The orchestral forces are huge and the players seem to struggle on occasion to keep up with Kamen, but the results are glorious.

Evidently there were big problems with the Graunke orchestra and a tight recording schedule and so a late move was made to finish up in London. Still, I THINK that the major highlights were completed in Germany. Not certain about that, though. A Columbia Pictures soundtrack released on Warner Bros. Records would seem to suggest a score that could get reissued some day by one of The Usual Suspects. If so, a few minor improvements could be made to the sequencing (I'd like to hear more of the final battle for example) but on the whole Kamen's album presentation gives you what you want.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2009 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

An FSM Member has bought this cd off of me so I thought I'd listen to it one more time before it's boxed up to the land down under. It's THE score that (I don't think) anyone would guess was composed by Michael Kamen if they heard it for the first time without knowing who'd written it. Lovely score I haven't listened to in many years, but it's extremely 'fresh' sounding this morning as it played.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2009 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)

I had this CD once...sold it off when I was cleaning out my collection. For a period of a few years, I all but stopped listening to movie scores, so I took a bunch of them to my local used cd store and hocked them...probably got a couple dollars for it, and bought some rock or pop cd that I only listened to once or twice. I kick myself for it all the time. Sigh...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2009 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Jim Barg   (Member)

Bought the double-disc DVD at Borders last night, and was pleased to see the movie still holds up, as well as the score, which I hadn't listened to in some time.

I was lucky to find a copy of the CD at my local library a few years ago. But I'd gladly shell out for an expanded/remastered reissue (the end credit suite would be a nice addition).

American prints of the film had a fanfare at the beginning under the Columbia Pictures logo that does not appear on the record.
I think the fanfare is at the end of the last cue on the album if I'm not mistaken.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2009 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

American prints of the film had a fanfare at the beginning under the Columbia Pictures logo that does not appear on the record.
I think the fanfare is at the end of the last cue on the album if I'm not mistaken.


The one at the end is a different version than the one that opens the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2010 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

Would any label care to reply regarding the status of releasing a re-issue/expanded edition of this score?

Kamen made a great effort in his score for this fantasy film. Written for large orchestra in a neo-romantism approach, the music has some aggressive brass passages, a waltz, and peaceful traveling music. This score will be very welcomed. It is very different from his urban action music of the Lethal Weapon and Die Hard films.

As the first album was released by Warner Bros. Records, I am hoping some label secured the license from WB before that studio began clapping down on issuing licenses. frown

Thanks,

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2010 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

It's way up there for me. One of the best scores of the 80's (and that's saying a lot) of any composer, not just Kamen.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2010 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   razorback64   (Member)

One of my favourites by Kamen ( the other one is 'The Dead Zone)and one of my favourite Gilliam films as well. I owned it on CD when the movie came out. Then i lost the CD. Then found the LP for $2.00. Then only a couple of years ago found the CD at a 2nd hand store for $7.00. The latest DVD special edition is a good buy, as is the book about the films making.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2010 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

Do we think it's the best score for a Gilliam movie?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2010 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   razorback64   (Member)

Do we think it's the best score for a Gilliam movie?

It's no "The Crimson Permanent Assurance", but it's close.

 
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