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 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

I wonder if this soundtrack would ever be re-issued?

http://www.soundtrack.net/albums/database/?id=433

Food for thought.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I don't think bootlegs are often re-issued.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   BlindDoc   (Member)

Oh, that one...

A Bootleg it is. But Bootleg or not - don't touch it. Terrible, *abysmal* sound quality (except for the previously available tracks). Sounds like a fourth generation hi-speed dub of an original "normal" cassette tape.

Not to be enjoyed. Let alone the price it fetches...

Best,
Burnie

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Oh, that one...

A Bootleg it is. But Bootleg or not - don't touch it. Terrible, *abysmal* sound quality (except for the previously available tracks). Sounds like a fourth generation hi-speed dub of an original "normal" cassette tape.

Not to be enjoyed. Let alone the price it fetches...

Best,
Burnie


Yep. Sounds horrible.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Agreed. A fabulous effort by Vangelis capturing the feeling and time period of the story in an unconventional manner, i.e. using synths, with beautiful results, only to be diminished and stripped of its power when heard in horrid sound quality on the aforementioned bootleg (the tracks are even played at a 2% lower speed!)

However, there are versions out there on the Net which sound marginally better, but nevertheless this is a score that I'd definitely love to see a label like FSM be able to release. smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

I apologis(z)e for my ignorance re the bootleg.

However an official expanded complete CD(s) could be "interesting".

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

The twenty-minute suite at the end of the album is one of the finest pieces of music Vangelis ever wrote/performed. Horrid sound quality on the bootleg but it's the only way to hear a truly sublime piece of music. Vangelis seems to enjoy performing live suites of his filmscores (the CHARIOTS OF FIRE album devoted it's b-side to one such suite), I've always wondered if he did one for BLADE RUNNER, it never turned up anywhere, even on a bootleg, but you never know.

I suspect Vangelis has many such treasures locked away in his vaults.

I wish Vangelis would allow a label like FSM to release some of his complete scores as limited editions. He has so much unreleased music, for us Vangelis-fans its maddening to see James Horner/Jerry Goldsmith fans etc treated to such amazing rare and limited releases of late. But for us it'll never happen, Vangelis is too 'old-school' music industry-wise; he doesn't even have an offical website- how old-school is that in this day and age?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   reneintoys   (Member)


However an official expanded complete CD(s) could be "interesting".


You can forget about it...for some reason Vangelis scores will never fetch complete score releases somehow. that is some basic rule in soundtrack land...it is even very hard to compile a complete Bladerunner score which still has several unreleased parts of music after the recent and much anticipated so called "complete" 3-cd(!) score release, we can only dream. Does this brilliant composer has to die first before we see his scores getting a proper release? What is behind this!?

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

The twenty-minute suite at the end of the album is one of the finest pieces of music Vangelis ever wrote/performed.

I heartily agree. It's a moving, beautiful and powerful piece of music that I could listen to for days. I feel that way as well about the final 12 or 13-minute piece on 1492. Mesmerizing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

Why on earth Vangelis has never collected these suites into a compilation disc at least is beyond me. If not for that bootleg, that Bounty suite would have remained utterly unknown, unheard by anybody other than Vangelis and his recording engineer. Astonishing, and very frustrating.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Urs Lesse   (Member)

Does this brilliant composer has to die first before we see his scores getting a proper release? What is behind this!?

I actually would not be surprised if he took all his original scores that he owns with him then.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Well, that 20-minute suite is actually closer to 16 minutes, since the 5-minute cue that comes before that (when Fletcher and the mutineers burn the vessel and Bligh is absolved) is separate. Inaccuracies in track time aside, though, the 16-minute suite really is a beautiful work of art that acts as a summation of the score's main theme, and it works extremely well as a standalone piece. It's a shame that Vangelis mixed the end titles portion of the suite differently on his "Themes" album i.e. much less focus on the woodblock percussion.

That brings me to ask this question: which mix of the do you guys prefer of the end titles music, the "Themes" mix, or the original film mix?

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


That brings me to ask this question: which mix of the do you guys prefer of the end titles music, the "Themes" mix, or the original film mix?


I like both versions, but I prefer the film mix.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

If FSM released it, we'd have BOTH mixes. (Prefer the fim mix myself, but Vangelis-fans have to be thankful for what we get).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Alexcremers   (Member)

Talk about "remix", the Blade Runner soundtracks also sound quite differently compared to the original mix of the film. The 7 seconds reverb washes out everything. I haven't checked out what mix they've used for The Final Cut.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

..

A Bootleg it is. But Bootleg or not - don't touch it. Terrible, *abysmal* sound quality (except for the previously available tracks). Sounds like a fourth generation hi-speed dub of an original "normal" cassette tape.
Best,
Burnie

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I had the boot but rapidly sold it on. Great music, poorly presented.

Avoid

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

We've had a few threads on this score over the years. Love the score, and think we should have more than the two tracks on the THEMES compilation. That said, I am in FAVOUR of Vangelis' habit of re-conceptualizing his scores, so I have no particular interest in a complete soundtrack. Just some kind of BOUNTY experience that stays more or less close to the original compositions, and I'm a happy camper.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Was there a particular reason why this score didn't get some kind of album release in 1984?.

For me, it's one of Vangelis's best.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Was there a particular reason why this score didn't get some kind of album release in 1984?.

For me, it's one of Vangelis's best.


Indeed, I've often wondered about the lack of a concurrent release myself. Maybe it had to do with the movie's lack of commercial success.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2010 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I've always thought it odd that Blade Runner and The Bounty were given such shoddy soundtrack treatment in '82 and '84 even after Vangelis had just won an Oscar in early '82. Hmmmph!

 
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