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 Posted:   Jan 11, 2010 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   cushinglee   (Member)

I really enjoy this long ended series of rerecordings of Delerue, North, Rosenman, Takemitsu and hoped, at the time of their release, that there was more to come highlighting other interesting, slightly off the beaten path composers. Alas, nothing. Were further editions planned and just never came to be? Curious to know what might have been.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2010 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

They had a Herrmann CD planned when the series was pulled due to lack of sales... or so the story goes....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2010 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   cushinglee   (Member)

Citizen Kane no doubt. smile

Seriously, that's too bad. In keeping with the other CDs, I imagine they would have focused on his 50s and 60s work. Bride Wore Black or something.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2010 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

Yes a 25 min suite of Bride Wore Black...

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2010 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Funny. At the time these came out, the Herrmann collection probably would have saved the series.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2010 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

The only one of these I've heard (and own) is the Rosenman disc with EAST OF EDEN and REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE. Very fine recordings! Too bad they never released the Herrmann one, which I would have bought. I never heard much about this series so I don't know if the North, etc. were well regarded or not.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2010 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Bill Cooke   (Member)


I only bought the Rosenman and North discs, and I think they were both very well done. I can see where some poeple might have issues with the performance of the SPARTACUS suite. But after some time with it, I grew to appreciate it as pure music rather than an exact approximation of the original soundtrack. Now I enjoy it quite a bit.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2011 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Bumping this thread up to see if any other members have got any (or all) of these 4 albums.

What do you think of the composers chosen, and score selections?

Do your tastes align with that of the Nonesuch label, or would you have preferred other selections and/or other composers to have been highlighted in this series?

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 Posted:   Jul 11, 2011 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I thought the North disc was a travesty - the Spartacus alone made me want to vomit on the ground. But maybe that's what happens when the conductor is a Broadway guy.

The Takemitsu disc was fine, the Delerue was okay, and the Rosenman, as I recall, was okay, too. But the North - buh bye.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2011 - 6:21 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

The Takemitsu disc was fine, the Delerue was okay, and the Rosenman, as I recall, was okay, too. But the North - buh bye.

That's interesting to hear.
Perhaps others also share your opinion, as well.
The first 3 albums in the series have virtually sequential serial numbers, then straggling behind about 40 numbers later comes the North album.

Wonder of if there's a connection between the North album's segregated serial # and less-than-positive feedback regarding its performances...

If the series had continued, I'd have liked to see a volume of Benjamin Frankel's British scores presented!

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2011 - 7:33 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

I only bought the Delerue and Takemitsu discs, which I found disappointing. Despite the "newly recorded" PR, several tracks on the Takemitsu CD were original soundtrack recordings with less-than-stellar sound, and the cues from Woman in the Dunes were ripped straight off the film (complete with sound effects).

I also found the performance on the Delerue disc very apathetic. I'd far-sooner listen to the old mono (but energetic) soundtrack recording of Day For Night's "Grande Choral" than the anemic performance on the Nonesuch.

I was glad to see Nonesuch taking a risk with a series of film music releases but I thought they botched it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2011 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Yes like James Bernard or Albert Glasser?

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2011 - 12:03 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

(Unfortunately) The Rosenman is still an essential purchase. I wonder if we'll ever see the original recordings releasedfrown

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2011 - 12:33 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I only had the North and didn't like it. The other composer collections didn't appeal to me. Presentation was unattractive as well. A misguided series I think.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2012 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Miguel Andrade   (Member)

I've had for many years the Rosenman disc only (got it when was first released) and always enjoyed it. Recently got the North one and was quite taken by it... but then again I'm on the minority that welcomes a new reading of the same work. Particularly in the case of film music, to have it performed without the necessity to obey to the demands of whatever is going on in the screen, allowing for a lot more of freedom in tempi and dynamics.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2012 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

I enjoyed both the Rosenman and the North albums.
From the North album, one of my favorite suites was Spartacus . Yes the London Symphony Orchestra’s reading is different from the soundtrack recording, but it was a good performance, practically, the “Vesuvius Camp” cue—it was very vibrant, a little better than the soundtrack recording. If you listen carefully, there is a harpsichord in that cue that wasn’t in the soundtrack recording. My two complaints in the Spartacus suite were that there wasn’t more material on the album and that some of the pieces were arranged into the MCA album edits, like the main title and “Draba Fight.” I am gratful that Nonesuch re-recorded any portions of Spartacus since Varese droped the ball on doing a re-recording back in the 1990s.

I also liked the suite from the Bad Seed, particularly the opening where we hear a kindergarten-like piano theme and it turns into a macabre by orchestra. In my opinion, the all the good material is in that suite. Now I’m reluctant to hear the entire score.
North fans should get this one.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2023 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

In 2014, BAM (The Brooklyn Academy of Music) Rose Cinema in New York City did this film-retrospect to celebrate Nonesuch Records' 50th Anniversary by screening the films that were featured on that album series.

https://www.bam.org/film/2014/nonesuch-records-on-film

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2023 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I have all four albums; I got them when they originally appeared. I greatly cherish all of them, and thought the composers were well chosen and the pieces well selected. The most essential of these is the Rosenman recording conducted by John Adams, but I like all the others too. Great series, I loved that it focused on the composers and the music, not so much on the films. Too bad it folded after just four albums. Nonesuch's choice of repertoire and composers showed they were willing to veer off the safe and often trodden path.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2023 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

The Nonesuch of the latest 15-20 years barely resembles the one from the 90s (and none in the slightest from the OG Elektra Nonesuch from 1964-85) so I doubt this would have gone any further than it did.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2023 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I like all of them.

The Leonard Rosenman release is the most essential, but also essential is the Alex North one too in my opinion despite the flaws of it since it is the best version available of some of North's best music.

The Toru Takemitsu and Georges Delerue releases are nice, and it is interesting to see which pieces Takemitsu himself choose to represent his film work by. (It was Takemitsu himself who selected the 10 pieces on the album.) But the Takemitsu and Delerue albums are the ones that I revisit the least.

Gotta love which composers they choose to focus on, all four of them are among my idols and favorite composers. It is a pity that we don't see more projects like this done today.

 
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