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 Posted:   Feb 22, 2010 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I'm surprised that "Ben-Hur" is among the titles at all. Hasn't there been some struggle between Warner and EMI over this title? The R2 DVD even comes without the isolated score track. Maybe this has been resolved as the original "Ben-Hur" recordings are now in the public domain...

There was certainly a long-running legal case in which EMI claimed that they had the rights to many of the M-G-M music soundtracks (or was it just the LP recordings?) over Time Warner. I seem to recall that it was resolved somehow. I was never sure whether the lack of the isolated score on the Ben-Hur DVD in Europe was due to the rights dispute or was due to a lack of space on the DVD due to the need to include the extra European languages and sub-titles.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   dfurtney   (Member)

Hi everyone:

I run a fan web site dedicated to the "Poltergeist" trilogy. I'm very excited to hear about this new 2 disc CD release of the soundtrack for the original film. I was not aware that the 1997 release had audio issues (it sounded great to me!) but I can't wait to buy the remastered version from FSM.

Just wanted to mention a few things:

1. Regarding the previous discussion about the supposed "unused" P3 score by Jerry, the other posters were right: NO SUCH THING EXISTS. The guy who started that false rumor ("Greg," mentioned here earlier) tried to get me to believe the same thing about 7 years ago. Initially I believed him (it "sounded" like it could have been true) but the more things he said the more what he was claiming just didn't add up. Why he chose to lie about something like that is beyond me. I do wish of course that MGM had made P3 on a bigger budget; the movie would have been vastly improved had Jerry done the music and if JoBeth Williams, Craig T. Nelson, and Oliver Robins had been involved. If you'll notice MGM did use parts of Jerry's scores from both P1 and P2 in the P3 trailer and the "Making Of," which lead you to believe you'd be seeing a movie that was better than it actually was! I do wish someone could (online?) redub all of P3 using Jerry's music. No offense to Joe Renzetti, who put together a nice little creepy soundtrack, but it just wasn't a "Poltergeist" film without Jerry's music.

I've got the extended CD of P2...Jerry wrote some cool alternate material for that film as well.


Just wanted to provide a few links from my site that you all might find of interest:

1. Why WB initially planned to do a deluxe 2 disc DVD set for the original film's 25th anniversary but then didn't: http://www.poltergeist.poltergeistiii.com/German.html

2. The "Who really directed it" controversy:
http://www.poltergeist.poltergeistiii.com/really.html

3. Lesser known, but also of interest: Who really wrote the film?
http://www.poltergeist.poltergeistiii.com/wrote.html

4. Poltergeist III's original ending with Heather O'Rourke, and how the director (falsely) claimed it was never filmed (it WAS filmed, but then they re-shot the ending after O'Rourke died using a body double):
http://www.poltergeistiii.com/originalending.html

-David






 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

WOW, now that's some in depth reading. VERY fascinating. I find it funny what Goldsmith said, he never even met Tobe, for some reason that cracked me up.

Seeing interviews with Steven, he appears to be a driven, no nonsense guy, he knows what he wants and gets it. That's not a criticism, hell you'd have to be that way to get to where you are now. He seems very strong in his opinions and also Tobe only directing a few things before Poltergeist, may have been a tad intimidated by Steven. I think I would have been, it would have been hard to stand strong on my own two feet with my opinions if I have a director/Steven next to me saying, hey I'd do this. I mean look at his track record til then, pretty damn impressive.

Very neat reading thanks for sharing.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Maestro   (Member)

Yes! I know this site very well and it's a great resource for all things Poltergeist.

I've visited it on many occasions in the past when investigating particular information to do with either the films themselves or the scores.

Keep up the phenomenal work David! big grin

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2010 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I had a look at this disc in my local HMV the other day, and its exactly as the Rhino release down to the packaging. Which I found was a fine release. I know people have commented and are looking forward to the FSM 2cd, but I am asking is it really necessary. The Rhino (and new Sony) are 70 mins long. Thats 70 mins! If the new release is just a bunch of alternates and source with the LP program to fill it out, how required is that? How much more can be missing from the Rhino, which I assume includes all the major themes and cues? Also, it has a fine booklet with liners about the film and music by Burlingame, and stills from the picture. And I thought the sound was fine also. I wish FSM good luck and I know it will sell a lot, but I really cant see much of an improvement on the previous release(s). IMHO, of course.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2010 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I had a look at this disc in my local HMV the other day, and its exactly as the Rhino release down to the packaging. Which I found was a fine release. I know people have commented and are looking forward to the FSM 2cd, but I am asking is it really necessary. The Rhino (and new Sony) are 70 mins long. Thats 70 mins! If the new release is just a bunch of alternates and source with the LP program to fill it out, how required is that? How much more can be missing from the Rhino, which I assume includes all the major themes and cues? Also, it has a fine booklet with liners about the film and music by Burlingame, and stills from the picture. And I thought the sound was fine also. I wish FSM good luck and I know it will sell a lot, but I really cant see much of an improvement on the previous release(s). IMHO, of course.

I can only speak for myself on this matter, but the sound on the Rhino release is very thin and not a fun listening experience. I've owned the cd for 5 years and I hardly ever listen to it, I actually prefer to just watch the movie again because I find the music there to sound much fuller.

I wouldn't mind a one disc release from FSM, if it means to have this great music by Goldsmith in the listening experience it is meant to be.

And there are a lot of people who'll tell you the lp sounds tons better than the Rhino. If FSM can match this on CD and make it sound as good as their Twilight Zone release, I welcome their release!

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2010 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Ive heard the arguments about sound, personally I dont find it bad at all to be honest. I do wonder though, if the new Sony release sounds any better? If anyone has got a copy of it at all?

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2010 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   Reboesque   (Member)

Hmm, I never find anything half as cool as this in my local HMV.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2010 - 1:05 AM   
 By:   chadergeist   (Member)

Which cues are missing then?


I check this cd on Amazon and from the back insert photo. It looks like it is the same cues from the Rhino release and no cues are missing from this reissue. I can't wait till the FSM issue comes out! I hope they fixed the slippage in Escape From Suburbia where she just calls into the pool of corpses. Where it first starts the "fro ting fro ting fro ting di di da da da". Go here and play track 15 you will know what i mean: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Poltergeist/hnum/1527143

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2010 - 1:06 AM   
 By:   chadergeist   (Member)

I had a look at this disc in my local HMV the other day, and its exactly as the Rhino release down to the packaging. Which I found was a fine release. I know people have commented and are looking forward to the FSM 2cd, but I am asking is it really necessary. The Rhino (and new Sony) are 70 mins long. Thats 70 mins! If the new release is just a bunch of alternates and source with the LP program to fill it out, how required is that? How much more can be missing from the Rhino, which I assume includes all the major themes and cues? Also, it has a fine booklet with liners about the film and music by Burlingame, and stills from the picture. And I thought the sound was fine also. I wish FSM good luck and I know it will sell a lot, but I really cant see much of an improvement on the previous release(s). IMHO, of course.

I can only speak for myself on this matter, but the sound on the Rhino release is very thin and not a fun listening experience. I've owned the cd for 5 years and I hardly ever listen to it, I actually prefer to just watch the movie again because I find the music there to sound much fuller.

I wouldn't mind a one disc release from FSM, if it means to have this great music by Goldsmith in the listening experience it is meant to be.

And there are a lot of people who'll tell you the lp sounds tons better than the Rhino. If FSM can match this on CD and make it sound as good as their Twilight Zone release, I welcome their release!



This version is to be fixed and done better than the original Rhino. I didn't like the slippage on Escape, look at my reply above to see what i mean.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2010 - 1:12 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Go here and play track 15 you will know what i mean: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Poltergeist/hnum/1527143

I don't know what you mean.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2010 - 1:55 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

The Sony re-releases of the Rhino stuff are very cheap, £5 per disc in the UK. That's £10 for the double Ben-Hur set, the best deal in soundtracks I think. I did have the Rhino Poltergeist, but not anymore, I might re-buy it at a fiver. I don't like it enough to pay over four times as much for the no doubt excellent FSM issue, but price doesn't seem to be an issue for most posters on this site.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2010 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)

It seems like the next batch in the SCL re-issue series is scheduled for September. And here comes the exciting thing: among the titles seem to be several of the "old" Rhino Handmade CDs:

The Pirate
Good News (isn't it?)
It's Always Fair Weather

Maybe they'll really get around to do "The Belle Of New York" and "Deep In My Heart". Finally new material from the MGM musicals librarywink

Here's a funny one:
http://www.amazon.de/Radio-Keith-Orpheum-Fred-Astaire-Ginger-Rogers/dp/B003VKW0X6/

I wonder if they'll keep 'Radio-Keith-Orpheum' until the release date.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2010 - 1:08 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

It seems like the next batch in the SCL re-issue series is scheduled for September. And here comes the exciting thing: among the titles seem to be several of the "old" Rhino Handmade CDs:

The Pirate
Good News (isn't it?)
It's Always Fair Weather

Maybe they'll really get around to do "The Belle Of New York" and "Deep In My Heart". Finally new material from the MGM musicals librarywink

Here's a funny one:
http://www.amazon.de/Radio-Keith-Orpheum-Fred-Astaire-Ginger-Rogers/dp/B003VKW0X6/

I wonder if they'll keep 'Radio-Keith-Orpheum' until the release date.


Any news on "Ivanhoe" ?- I still don't fancy the overpriced ebay prices.

Mild.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2010 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   John-73   (Member)

REALLY looking forward to the impending FSM release of Poltergeist. Am VERY tempted (especially for £5!) to pick up the Sony reissue of the original Rhino CD but with this just around the corner (fingers crossed!) I'm trying to be patient wink

Wonder if this will be out for Halloween?...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2010 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Daniel Champion   (Member)

This is at the very TOP of my list for 2010!

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2010 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

This is at the very TOP of my list for 2010!

Roger that.

Over and out.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2012 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   chadergeist   (Member)

I think the Rhino one has it's flaus. In Escape From Suburba where the music is just at when Diane slides in the pool, the instruments hesitates or sticks. On the FSM cd, it is smooth like on the lp. The first note of the "Ra Ding Ra Ding".

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2012 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   chadergeist   (Member)

Go here and play track 15 you will know what i mean: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Poltergeist/hnum/1527143

I don't know what you mean.



I LIKE YOUR AVATAR! IT IS FUNNY! BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. LOL

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2012 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   chadergeist   (Member)

Go here and play track 15 you will know what i mean: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Poltergeist/hnum/1527143

I don't know what you mean.



I LIKE YOUR AVATAR! IT IS FUNNY! BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. LOL


At the first message the man in the square box going blah blah with his mouth.

 
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