LOL. I had not seen this Van Rompuy clip before hehe. That this British gentlemen does not know him, is actually a sign of ignorance on his part, as Van Rompuy is quite a seasoned politician in Belgium and our prime minister from 2008 till 2009, a role that got handed to him not due to popular vote but a mediary role after our government collapsed that year. He's like the vice president who became president. But the man has little charisma or presence and he's part of the Christian Democracts, the party that didn't manage to deliver after its last electoral victory and is doomed to pay for it in the upcoming election this month.
Well if ignorance is a lack of knowledge of Belgium politicians, then count me in (in fact we are legion!). I do like the chocolate!
Nigel Farage in the Brussels clip is a UKIP loony, and no-one in the UK takes him seriously. They bombed at the election.
The disgusting ad hominem attacks on whether Van Rompuy is 'charismatic' should tell you all you need to know. If you want a 'charismatic' leader, then you basically want someone who will convince and exploit you! Oratory is a manipulation technique y'know. But more fundamentally, when a politician says, 'I want other politicians to be charismatic', he is of course suggesting that he himself is charismatic ... in other words he's a shameless narcissist. That was a cheap soundbite for his own electorate. He was cautioned for it.
Nigel Farage in the Brussels clip is a UKIP loony, and no-one in the UK takes him seriously. They bombed at the election.
The disgusting ad hominem attacks on whether Van Rompuy is 'charismatic' should tell you all you need to know. If you want a 'charismatic' leader, then you basically want someone who will convince and exploit you! Oratory is a manipulation technique y'know. But more fundamentally, when a politician says, 'I want other politicians to be charismatic', he is of course suggesting that he himself is charismatic ... in other words he's a shameless narcissist. That was a cheap soundbite for his own electorate. He was cautioned for it.
UKIP are a - get out of the EU - party, they are upfront about it & you know what you're getting. Nigel Farage is a character, but I wouldn't call someone who questions the lack of democracy in the EU a looney. As for Van Rompuy, I don't want any leader of Europe, charismatic or not. I remember voting yes to the Common Market, not to a Federal United States Of Europe, which seems to be the plan. I suppose that makes me a "little englander" or a "loony", or any other insult that takes the place of argument.
Nigel Farage in the Brussels clip is a UKIP loony, and no-one in the UK takes him seriously. They bombed at the election.
The disgusting ad hominem attacks on whether Van Rompuy is 'charismatic' should tell you all you need to know. If you want a 'charismatic' leader, then you basically want someone who will convince and exploit you! Oratory is a manipulation technique y'know. But more fundamentally, when a politician says, 'I want other politicians to be charismatic', he is of course suggesting that he himself is charismatic ... in other words he's a shameless narcissist. That was a cheap soundbite for his own electorate. He was cautioned for it.
UKIP are a - get out of the EU - party, they are upfront about it & you know what you're getting. Nigel Farage is a character, but I wouldn't call someone who questions the lack of democracy in the EU a looney. As for Van Rompuy, I don't want any leader of Europe, charismatic or not. I remember voting yes to the Common Market, not to a Federal United States Of Europe, which seems to be the plan. I suppose that makes me a "little englander" or a "loony", or any other insult that takes the place of argument.
HEY little englander "stay free or die" There will always be an ENGLAND"
You bet wrong. In the majority of the cases where these spree killers don't commit suicide, they get tracked down and shot within the same day and by people who are trained to do so. Supplying people with guns is not the solution. That's what got us in this mess in the first place.
I will tell you that just two months ago in my town a guy killed his son and drove on to the next town to kill his ex-girlfriend, only to get shot down by the police himself (and not without taking out one of the officers in the process). It was a sad affair and what's even sadder is that the police had knowledge of this person housing guns (he was taken to court before for illegal gun possession) and they didn't act on it.
The degree of paranoid behavior on display in this thread, not just about this issue but also the Euro, the post-apocalyptic future Chris is seeing, is what's really disturbing IMO.
I hope you guys aren't sitting in a basement filled with weapons waiting for the shit go down, because I have a saying as well: "If you expect something to happen, you will make it happen for you".
What does a gun have to do with a person 'losing it'? If they had no guns, they'd just use a knife, or a baseball bat, or a donkey jaw bone, etc (I again refer you to the porn actor who just killed a guy yesterday with a prop sword...which I guess we should now outlaw). I cannot believe you do not see that point. A gun is only as harmful as it's wielder (that prop sword was harmless, until an idiot picked it up...since he didn't have a gun...I guess he found something else). Guns are not the problem. People are. How many people are killing people with hatchets, swords, blunt objects, vehicles? A LOT more than those using guns.
Remember, it's only paranoia if they really are 'not' after you.
Don't worry about me sitting in a basement waiting for stuff to go down. I don't have a basement.
Oh yes, I love that clip. Good for him, he got fined for that, but he's asking the questions that we want to ask. He is dead right about the lack of democracy, it is a stranger to the EU. People don't seem to notice that we're losing it a tiny bit at a time, but losing it we are.
The same thing is going on here in the US. It's like Alice in Wonderland. Everyone in our administration is an enigma, seemingly doing every single thing opposite of what they should be doing to fix problems.
BP is completely inactive on this oil spill, even giving James Cameron (an underwater expert who knows super underwater experts) the finger when he asked if they needed some help or ideas.
Bottom line, everything is being aimed at a unified global system because we are ALL bankrupt (across the pond or not, we're in the same boat). The elite are finally making their move and what better time to do it: the people are bankrupt, joblessness is higher than ever, businesses are failing. I have heard from multiple sources about a 'United States of Europe' as well. I believe it will happen. It would certainly explain the concept of the 'revived Roman empire'.
Don't forget, our 'gunslingers' kept you all from speaking German.
German, alongside french and flemish is an official language in Belgium so we are taught it anyway (alongside english), but that aside, Europe will always be in debt to the US, UK and Russia for WWII. My grandfather fought in that war and was even a prisoner of war. I don't speak of it lightly.
No, no, what you should REALLY be saying is, why don't we take a poll of all the WWII American G.I.s (there are still some vets on this forum I reckon), and ask them how they feel about being confused with 'gunslingers'? They'd be highly insulted. Anyone who can't distinguish between a criminal gunslinger and a professional soldier isn't safe with a gun.
No, no, what you should REALLY be saying is, why don't we take a poll of all the WWII American G.I.s (there are still some vets on this forum I reckon), and ask them how they feel about being confused with 'gunslingers'? They'd be highly insulted. Anyone who can't distinguish between a criminal gunslinger and a professional soldier isn't safe with a gun.
Don't forget, our 'gunslingers' kept you all from speaking German.
German, alongside french and flemish is an official language in Belgium so we are taught it anyway (alongside english), but that aside, Europe will always be in debt to the US, UK and Russia for WWII. My grandfather fought in that war and was even a prisoner of war. I don't speak of it lightly.
No, no, what you should REALLY be saying is, why don't we take a poll of all the WWII American G.I.s (there are still some vets on this forum I reckon), and ask them how they feel about being confused with 'gunslingers'? They'd be highly insulted. Anyone who can't distinguish between a criminal gunslinger and a professional soldier isn't safe with a gun.
Most soldiers in America grew up with guns in their families (yes, little Timmy was taught how to shoot and probably has a far better reasoning at 8 regarding firearms than you would at 40). It's part of American culture (to the simpletons, study cowboys and the old west). Military, police and NRA advocates are all on the same team here. In Europe, there is only one team: the government team. If you like that system of socialist living, knock yourself out. We like our guns and we like our freedom. Ask any war vet. Half of them teach firearm skills and advocate homeowners having guns.
Like I said, be happy calling 911 and relying on someone else when you need help. That's what socialism is all about, letting someone else wipe 'for' you because you are either too ignorant or too lazy to do it yourself.
PS: Thanks for doing Scoresalot thinking for him. He talks too much already
Most soldiers in America grew up with guns in their families (yes, little Timmy was taught how to shoot and probably has a far better reasoning at 8 regarding firearms than you would at 40). It's part of American culture (to the simpletons, study cowboys and the old west). Military, police and NRA advocates are all on the same team here. In Europe, there is only one team: the government team. If you like that system of socialist living, knock yourself out. We like our guns and we like our freedom. Ask any war vet. Half of them teach firearm skills and advocate homeowners having guns.
It would take too long to refute the string of ridic and deliberate simplifications in that paragraph. But I think the war vets should be allowed to speak for themselves, if only they would. The first thing basic training tries to beat out of any raw recruit is the silly notion that you can be a 'Rambo' and a soldier at the same time. The idea is to craft a gentleman, not a 'cowboy' (though REAL cowboys were often gents). The bigger the Rambo-head, the more the press-ups and latrine duty, until some elegance appears.
The statement about 'part of American culture' is chilling. As if we haven't seen (and seen through) all the cliches from Westerns. Cowboys generally used pistols to dispatch wounded cattle and horses on the trail. They worked hard and played hard, and unfortunately some of them got drunk, played with guns and wound up in 'white linen as cold as the clay'. I'm sure they'd sing you the songs if they could come back. The old 6-shooter isn't even accurate at ten feet. The Winchester etc., and the buffalo gun? Did the buffalo gun help the Indians? It ruined their livelihoods and pushed them into starvation. Do you think Britain didn't build an empire on guns? But they grew out of it. The Germans are ashamed of theirs now.
Before the gun (which Europe and Asia invented) was the sword, and that's what really built Europe, and that has a whole other set of ethics and decencies and SKILLS. You can't hide behind a bush and shoot someone from a book depository with a sword, you have to FACE them. So the barbarities eventually get tempered by chivalry. You're not rooted enough.
Isn't this veering suspiciously close to 'political' territory?
When you improve infant mortality in the 'hick' territories you're ashamed of AND study the statistics or per-capita gun deaths, then you'll have some statistics to use when you talk about freedoms and medicine and guns. Until then, I'm afraid, whether you know it or not, it's just spare testosterone doing the thinking. A lot of Americans don't agree with you anyway.
Okay...so this has gone on for THREE pages and no one has bothered to mention that THIS IS A POLITICAL THREAD AND THUS IS AGAINST THE RULES FOR POSTING ON THIS BOARD?????
