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 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   MikeyKW   (Member)

Does anyone know if this ever been released on CD? It'd make an interesting release (alongside the Michel Legrand rejected score) assuming the tracks are still around.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

A Michel Legrand rejected score? First I've heard of it, sure you don't mean Johnny Dankworth?

BOOM is one strange and rarely mentioned Barry score and I absolutely love it, it was recently released on CD by HARKIT RECORDS who have also released Barry's THE DOVE, THE WRONG BOX and FOLLOW ME, but I've heard this is not a legit label and takes it's sources from LP's.

I may be wrong, I'm sure someone here can be more precise.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Does anyone know if this ever been released on CD? It'd make an interesting release (alongside the Michel Legrand rejected score) assuming the tracks are still around.
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It's been released on CD by Harkit. This is an LP transfer and is probably a boot.

Session tapes and original LP masters appear lost.

I didn't know that Michel Legrand had a score rejected for this movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

BOOM was reissued in New Zealand in the 1980's along with a bunch of other great older titles - see the George2000 postings about how these came to be in this thread:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=69718&forumID=1&archive=0

So an album master for BOOM may very well still exist Down Under.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Alexander Zambra   (Member)

The LP is truly a masterpiece. Didn't like the movie though.
Wish was well reissued on CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Alan_more   (Member)

I never heard about a Legrand rejected score but I did read John Dankworth, Losey's usual composer, had written some stuff that didn't work, and only the song was kept.
The BOOM problem is the rights papers are lost, so no major company can release the score nor the DVD.
Which also means anybody else can and that's what happened recently.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

"BOOM! -- Michel Legrand. Listed on BFI.org.uk's site. When a label looked into releasing the score, supposedly Intrada Records, the studio could not find the tapes to Barry's score (nothing was said about Legrand's); any CD you see of it is a bootleg, regardless of excuses. Supposedly John Dankworth did a score as well, and one musician lists working with Dankworth on the film, but doesn't say if it was score or song(s)."

the above quote can be found within the following listing/article:

http://rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/list.html#Rejected

I am an avid follower of director Joseph Losey;
I find it ironic that Michel Legrand, who had scored Losey's "Eva" in 1962, had been called in to replace Richard Rodney Bennett's music for "The Go-Between" in 1971, after having his own score for "Boom" rejected in 1968!

"THE G0-BETWEEN -- Richard Rodney Bennett. The director thought the score was too dramatic and too climatic, so he got rid of it"

I'm the reverse of Zambra Alex: I like the movie "Boom" very much, but I feel John Barry's music is not suited to Losey's stylizations. That "Boom" LP and Harkit CD doesn't sound the same as the music heard in the film...

[I feel that John Barry was not appropriate for Nicolas Roeg's "Walkabout", either...]

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

"BOOM! -- Michel Legrand. Listed on BFI.org.uk's site. When a label looked into releasing the score, supposedly Intrada Records, the studio could not find the tapes to Barry's score (nothing was said about Legrand's); any CD you see of it is a bootleg, regardless of excuses. Supposedly John Dankworth did a score as well, and one musician lists working with Dankworth on the film, but doesn't say if it was score or song(s)."

the above quote can be found within the following listing/article:

http://rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/list.html#Rejected

I am an avid follower of director Joseph Losey;
I find it ironic that Michel Legrand, who had scored Losey's "Eva" in 1962, had been called in to replace Richard Rodney Bennett's music for "The Go-Between" in 1971, after having his own score for "Boom" rejected in 1968!

"THE G0-BETWEEN -- Richard Rodney Bennett. The director thought the score was too dramatic and too climatic, so he got rid of it"

I'm the reverse of Zambra Alex: I like the movie "Boom" very much, but I feel John Barry's music is not suited to Losey's stylizations. That "Boom" LP and Harkit CD doesn't sound the same as the music heard in the film...

[I feel that John Barry was not appropriate for Nicolas Roeg's "Walkabout", either...]


And let's muddy the waters a bit more by mentioning that Legrand scored Losey's version of A DOLL'S HOUSE in 1973 and John Barry scored the other version in the same year directed by Patrick Garland.

James

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2010 - 11:33 PM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

I never heard about a Legrand rejected score but I did read John Dankworth, Losey's usual composer, had written some stuff that didn't work, and only the song was kept.
The BOOM problem is the rights papers are lost, so no major company can release the score nor the DVD.
Walso means anybody else can and that's what happened recently.
This is the first I have heard of a Legrand score too, although it makes a kind of sense. Boom was released in the UK on DVD earlier this year so maybe the paperwork issue has been solved?

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2010 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   David Ferstat   (Member)

ToneRow wrote

... I feel that John Barry was not appropriate for Nicolas Roeg's "Walkabout", either.

Them's fightin' words around here, pardner! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2010 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   MikeyKW   (Member)

I never heard about a Legrand rejected score but I did read John Dankworth, Losey's usual composer, had written some stuff that didn't work, and only the song was kept.
The BOOM problem is the rights papers are lost, so no major company can release the score nor the DVD.
Walso means anybody else can and that's what happened recently.
This is the first I have heard of a Legrand score too, although it makes a kind of sense. Boom was released in the UK on DVD earlier this year so maybe the paperwork issue has been solved?


I'm not sure of the legality of any of these European video releases. I don't support illegal releases of copyrighted material, although they are sometimes necessary to make rights holders aware of the demand and motivate a legal release.

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2010 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

I'm not sure of the legality of any of these European video releases. I don't support illegal releases of copyrighted material, although they are sometimes necessary to make rights holders aware of the demand and motivate a legal release.

The UK DVD release is from a legit label.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2019 - 7:48 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

A few years ago I was killing time in a bookstore in New Orleans and was paging through a Joseph Losey bio. If I remember correctly, Legrand flew somewhere to meet with Losey regarding Boom! but no music was ever recorded. Any Losey and or Legrand fans have anything more definative? Love Barry's score but would also like to hear what Dankworth wrote.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2019 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

The BOOM problem is the rights papers are lost, so no major company can release the score nor the DVD.
Which also means anybody else can and that's what happened recently.


Thats interesting, so how would the true rights holders able to prove ownership of the IP if someone infringed? Does customary law then come into play?

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2019 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I've yet to see anything that says Legrand didn't do his score. But, on a related note, another composer did record a score. From my currently defunct Rejected Film Scores website:
BOOM! -- John Dankworth, R.I.P.. Dankworth tells in his book, Cleo and John: A Biography of the Dankworths, how with little direction from the director and only having seen the film a couple times, he did a score; after a couple sessions the director, not liking the score, said, "Maybe I just don't like strings much" -- never a good sign. He said another composer had been on board, so unless there's a mystery composer I don't know about, that solves where Legrand falls. INFO. [John Barry, R.I.P..]

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2019 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

My recollection is the Dankworth was the original composer and Hideaway (the song) is the hangover from that.

Incidentally, if anyone asks you on which three films John Barry worked for Richard Lester...

The answer is not The Knack, Petulia and Robin and Marian.

The answer is The Knack, Petulia and Boom.

Richard Lester was brought in to direct (uncredited) the post-production of Boom after Losey left the project, including procuring a new score and it was Richard Lester that brought John Barry onto the picture.

Presumably it was straight after they did Petulia.

(And of course on Robin and Marian, Barry was brought in by the producer after Lester had left.)

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2019 - 10:43 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

It's curious how Lester brought Barry in again considering the director had not really liked Barry's work for The Knack and Petulia. Lester is known for saying he did not share Barry's approach to scoring films, although the director was quick to acknowledge the effectiveness of Barry's music. Did Lester choose effectiveness over his own taste?

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2019 - 11:33 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

It's curious how Lester brought Barry in again considering the director had not really liked Barry's work for The Knack and Petulia. Lester is known for saying he did not share Barry's approach to scoring films, although the director was quick to acknowledge the effectiveness of Barry's music. Did Lester choose effectiveness over his own taste?

Alex


For someone who supposedly didn't like Barry, Barry saved his film Robin and Marian, so he should be eternally grateful.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2019 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

It's curious how Lester brought Barry in again considering the director had not really liked Barry's work for The Knack and Petulia. Lester is known for saying he did not share Barry's approach to scoring films, although the director was quick to acknowledge the effectiveness of Barry's music. Did Lester choose effectiveness over his own taste?

Alex


And of course in television advertising Barry and Lester worked together a few times, too.

I don't know this for sure, of course, but I suspect Lester's disdain for Barry was really with Robin and Marian, which he then retrospectively transposed onto the earlier scores.

We do have a tendency to 're-write' our story in light of information that comes later. Psychologists call it Hindsight Bias and is basically one of several reasons that we are often the worst witnesses to our own story.

I mean, if he really didn't like Barry's music for The Knack at the time (as opposed to later), why on Earth would he invite him onto Petulia and Boom?

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2019 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I'm curious. The Robin and Marian story with Legrand/Lester/Barry is well documented, but I've never heard of Lester actually speaking about this in an interview, just what his R&M editor recalled him saying at the time. Can you share?

 
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