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 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

I must start this thread by saying that I don't consider myself a fan of Mr. Zimmer's work. In fact, this is the only film I've seen which was scored by him during which I found myself thinking, "That is really interesting music." It's nothing monumental by any stretch of the imagination, but it's quite nice. I'd been in a musical rut lately, wanting for something completely new in the way of themes as well as style. When I went to see Inception this past Wednesday, that was exactly what I got. I knew I had to have the CD.

Now, the point of this thread is this: Inception is the only Zimmer album in my collection. For the Zimmer buffs out there, how do you rate it amongst his work? (Just out of curiosity) Secondly, is there anything else out there by him that falls along these same lines? I liked this one over his others because it's so downplayed, has minimal electro/techno influences and has several distinct, if simplistic, themes. This score fit the movie like a glove and I would be quite happy if he were nominated for best score. This was by far the best bit of scoring I've encountered in years.

And I don't typically find myself saying things like that about this man.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Davidfml   (Member)

After seeing the movie I needed this music. I've played it over and over. I know this is partly because I loved the movie and it makes me want to see it again. The track the "Dream is Collapsing" is worth the CD alone. And I've never been a Zimmer fan.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 6:18 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I really like this score too, even though the film did nothing for me.

Check out Black Rain, which I think has similar percussive tracks to the cue Mombasa from Inception.

Having gone through a bit of a look at his work, I highly suggest checking out the scores he contributed to British human interest arthouse movies in the late 80s and early 90s, where he was really mixing analogue and FM synths with avant guarde real instruments. These three particularly:

Paperhouse
A World Apart
Fruit Machine

The synths are very tastefully interwoven to create these great kind of intelligent, melodic new age soundscapes, in my opinion.

Crimson Tide I kind of find similar to Inception purely for it's wonderful ambience, creating an awesome sonic soundscape.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 6:36 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

if you are not familiar with these, go over to youtube and checkout...

Chevaliers de Sangreal < from Da Vinci Code

Angels & Demons (Main Title) < updated theme of Chevaliers de Sangreal

Water Of Irrawaddy < Beyond Rangoon (nice wooden flute)



 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

I'm not a Zimmer fan at all but this, for me, is the best film score CD of the year, very VERY enjoyable.

( I've not seen the film )

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

Thanks for the recommendations ahem. I'll most likely rent the films to see what I think of the music. I've got a couple in my Netflix, actually.

Has anyone checked out inceptionscore.com? I just accidentally found myself there and now I've got two bonus tracks: Projections & Don't Think About Elephants. I highly doubt the latter is from the scene from which it got its name.

Speaking of which, there seem to be a few tracks whose scenes I'm not sure about.

SPOILERS CONTAINED HEREIN:

I know that "Half Remembered Dream" is from the opening. "Dream is Collapsing" is from the scene with that line; "Radical Notion" is from Ariadne's first experiments with the dream world's physics; "528491" is from the buildup to Cobb and Ariadne's arrival in "limbo"; "Mombasa" is self-explanatory; "Dream Within a Dream" seems to be from the scene with that line, but the second half is a more tortured rendition of the theme as heard in the finale; "Waiting for a Train" is very obviously from the scenes leading up to the destruction of the third level hospital room; "Time" is from the finale (by far my favorite cue from the film with those lovely two note descending horn phrases).

The confusion comes in with "We Built Our Own World". To me, when I first listened to the CD, I thought it was from the scene when Ariadne and Cobb ascend and descend the elevator in his various memories, but it isn't long enough to be for that scene. Then again, it's not long enough to be from the scene for which it was named. Not in its entirety anyway.

"Old Souls" is, I think, from the sequence from which that line comes (Cobb and Moll awaken from limbo).

"One Simple Idea" could very well be from the scene in which Cobb plants said idea. Don't quote me.

"Paradox" sounds like it could be the denouement for Cobb and Moll. Again, don't quote me. These passages are so similar it's hard to tell.

Any clarification would be welcome.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

if you are not familiar with these, go over to youtube and checkout...

Chevaliers de Sangreal < from Da Vinci Code

Angels & Demons (Main Title) < updated theme of Chevaliers de Sangreal



Both DaVinci and Angels & Demons are rich, lovely, dynamic scores. Must-haves for anyone who simply loves good movie music

Inception is excellent. Love the score and the bonus tracks as well

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

I think large stretches of it are rather dull.

I did a review of it here:
http://www.moviemusicuk.us/inceptioncd.htm

Jon

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Speaking of which, there seem to be a few tracks whose scenes I'm not sure about.

Any clarification would be welcome.


Trying to determine which Zimmer tracks match up with which scenes of his films is one of the more challenging tasks facing our youth today. wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2010 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

"Dream is Collapsing" is the end title music.

My favorite score of the year so far as well...but four more months of new scores to go. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2010 - 1:30 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

A great score. My favourite of the year so far.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2010 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   kevin193   (Member)

Glad to know that the "foghorn" is the opening notes of the Piaf song. The love theme may be based on chords from a David Bowie song from "Hours" called "Dreaming my Life". Nolan used "Something in the Air" from the same Album in Memento. I also heard chordal progressions from "Psycho".
Love the movie, love the score.

PS I am not trained in music so I apologize if I have not used the correct terminology...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2010 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

Bump. Bump. Bump-diddley-bump-bump-bump.

Anyone have any insights into the tracks One Simple Idea, Paradox or Old Souls? Where they are in the film? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2010 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

I actually re-listened to the score shortly after my last post and think I know what the second half of Dream Within a Dream is. As I said before, the first passage is from the scene with the first dream within a dream sequence. Then, I believe, it segues into the material for Moll's ledge scene. You know what I'm talking about. The big, dramatic string passage at the very end is what clicked with me. I remember appropriately melodramatic writing for that scene.

Oh and Paradox is from the bit when they're all waking up after the final kick and we find out that the idea was planted firmly and without suspicion. Blam.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2010 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   Microceratops   (Member)


It's an OK score. Nothing special in my opinion. Zimmer has done far better in the past.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2011 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   villabourani   (Member)

I wrote a short post on this:


www.musicatthemovies.wordpress.com

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2011 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

As a separate listen on cd it's good, but as a score to a movie much too loud and intrusive. His "Sherlock Holmes" score was equally in your face, but I didn't mind that as the movie went for guns blazing, but Inception was too over the top in the dramatic and dialogue moments.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2011 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I thought it was a pretty good album, but PERFECT in the movie. Added a three-dimensional, aural depth. One of 2010's best scores. The film was my second favourite of last year too.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2011 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

I think the weaker parts were the action parts and the stronger parts were the pseudo philosophical dreamy electric guitar bits.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2011 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Peter G.   (Member)

For Inception, I lean more towards Jon Broxton's and Christian Clemmensen's opinions. I thought most of it was uninteresting or annoying. Some of the annoying parts for me are those two 'foghorn' blasts, those big, sweeping chords that are heard in so many MV/RC scores (a style of scoring I am not a big fan of) and the entire 'Mombasa' track. However, it works well enough in the film and 'Time' is a standout cue. My ratings for 'Inception' are **1/2 (out of *****) stars for the score album and ***1/2 stars for how it is heard in the film.

It isn't exactly the average MV/RC score, but it isn't that far from it either. Zimmer is capable of better.

 
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