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 Posted:   Oct 29, 2010 - 11:19 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I LOVED the celebrity MYSTERY CHALLENGER segments of this great show. Doesn't it seem like a POPULAR dvd collection could be released? You had the top of the hill to marginal celebs appearing from 1950-1967. If any one is interested in these great clips, would you come in, and SIGN IN, PLEASE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEvaaW_DUI

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I have every extant episode, 750 of 876 made between 1950 and 1967 thanks to GSN plus some that I got from the vault that have the original commercials.

There was going to be a best of set by the company that also gave us best of sets of Password and Match Game. But the company went under before the release date so that was the end of that.

For the inside story on the history of the show, I recommend getting a used copy of executive producer Gil Fates' 1978 book (many libraries have it too).

http://www.amazon.com/Whats-My-Line-Inside-History/dp/0139551468/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1288418785&sr=8-4

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I will say this- Dorothy Kilgallen was the homliest woman I ever saw on a regular show. big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 12:49 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

That's amazing, Eric.

What inspired your apparently intense interest in the show?

I hesitate to ask . . . are you collecting any other shows in similar fashion?

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:00 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I will say this- Dorothy Kilgallen was the homliest woman I ever saw on a regular show. big grin

Her lover Johnnie Ray, didn't think so. smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I love game shows. I can remember as a child in the mid-70s when you had as many as 25 network daytime and nightly syndicated game shows on the air in one year and I became introduced to the emcees like Bill Cullen, Allen Ludden, Peter Marshall, Gene Rayburn, Tom Kennedy, Alex Trebek (Alex for me is eternally the goofy host of "High Rollers", not the serious host of "Jeopardy", a show I associate with its original 60s-70s host Art Fleming) etc. as well as the celebrities who were game show regulars. While "What's My Line?" was before my time, it's a show I can connect with based on my game show interest from later years because of the personalities who overlapped both eras. It was fun to watch and could be uproariously funny in its live, spontaneous fashion, and it also had a wonderful elegance to it as well with serious newsman John Daly as the host (Daly was in fact anchoring ABC's nightly newscast at the same time he was hosting WML on a rival network).

My collection has over 6000 individual game show episodes from shows ranging from WML in 1950 to the late 80s and early 90s when game shows ceased to be a regular part of network daytime schedules (save for "Price Is Right" which is the last survivor) and the old hosts/personalities disappeared from the scene.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

There is some classic stuff in those old shows, great personalities and some swell humor!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

I love game shows. I can remember as a child in the mid-70s when you had as many as 25 network daytime and nightly syndicated game shows on the air in one year and I became introduced to the emcees like Bill Cullen, Allen Ludden, Peter Marshall, Gene Rayburn, Tom Kennedy, Alex Trebek (Alex for me is eternally the goofy host of "High Rollers", not the serious host of "Jeopardy", a show I associate with its original 60s-70s host Art Fleming) etc. as well as the celebrities who were game show regulars. While "What's My Line?" was before my time, it's a show I can connect with based on my game show interest from later years because of the personalities who overlapped both eras. It was fun to watch and could be uproariously funny in its live, spontaneous fashion, and it also had a wonderful elegance to it as well with serious newsman John Daly as the host (Daly was in fact anchoring ABC's nightly newscast at the same time he was hosting WML on a rival network).

My collection has over 6000 individual game show episodes from shows ranging from WML in 1950 to the late 80s and early 90s when game shows ceased to be a regular part of network daytime schedules (save for "Price Is Right" which is the last survivor) and the old hosts/personalities disappeared from the scene.


Eric, do you have any of "The Movie Game" (the late '60s game show with celebrity panelists that was first hosted by Sonny Fox, then Larry Blyden)?

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Exactly one episode, hosted by Blyden is in the collectors trade circuit and I do have it. I remember Kurt Kaznar ("The Time Tunnel") being one of the panelists, and Janet Leigh the main guest.

Some game shows aren't as well represented as others because (1) they were produced by a company that never had its shows licensed for repeats on GSN or elsewhere or (2) the episodes were wiped out of existence by the networks and the production companies were too short-sighted to keep their own copies. Case in point is how almost all 60s daytime game shows are gone with only a few exceptions and we have the odd case of how episodes of the CBS daytime version of Password from 66-67 (its only year in color) exist but not the 1971-75 ABC daytime episodes.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I will swear on a stack of Bibles that early 60's eps of PASSWORD were syndicated and televised in the spring and summer of 1970. I was fresh out of 8th grade and they were on at 12:30 in the afternoon. I sat through them because reruns of LOVE THAT BOB started at 1pm!

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:52 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Those would be the aforementioned CBS color episodes of 1966-67 which were indeed syndicated in repeats through 1971 when the show came back on ABC. In fact, those episodes only exist in their cut-down syndicated versions in which all of Allen's plugs to watch Art Linkletter on "House Party" at the end of each show are edited out along with some other topical references of the moment. The earlier CBS daytime B/W episodes from 1961-66 are gone (except for a handful of kinescopes) but the B/W CBS nighttime episodes that aired from 1962-65 still exist in their original uncut pristine videotape quality (the only Goodson-Todman show of this era that was saved in that format).

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Those would be the aforementioned CBS color episodes of 1966-67 which were indeed syndicated in repeats through 1971 when the show came back on ABC. In fact, those episodes only exist in their cut-down syndicated versions in which all of Allen's plugs to watch Art Linkletter on "House Party" at the end of each show are edited out along with some other topical references of the moment. The earlier CBS daytime B/W episodes from 1961-66 are gone (except for a handful of kinescopes) but the B/W CBS nighttime episodes that aired from 1962-65 still exist in their original uncut pristine videotape quality (the only Goodson-Todman show of this era that was saved in that format).

I certainly bow to your knowledge. You know your stuff, and it's great for someone to know it. You ought to write a book! No kidding!

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I can only take credit for being able to swallow the info others have put out in books like Gil Fates' "What's My Line?" memoir and there's also the great "Encylcopedia Of TV Game Shows" that is a must-own reference guide. Glad it's helpful!

Speaking of great game show moments, here's FSM's own Preston Neal Jones winning $10,000 on the Pyramid, June 13, 1973 (Richard Deacon giving the clues). In an incredible coincidence this is the only extant episode of this show in its early run and for ten years I never knew our Preston was the same one I've seen win over and over in my collection. smile







 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 2:16 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Wow, Preston!

(How much after taxes?)

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I just want some company to SIGN IN, PLEASE! and release that treasure trove of great famous guests!

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Whoa!

Read all about Preston's "Pyramid" adventure HERE . . .

http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=13894645bb8089c7f31d2bb40ea2036e&showtopic=18296&pid=219492&mode=threaded&start=#entry219492

. . . courtesy of none other than our own Mr. Paddon.

Great stuff, guys!

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 2:31 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

An episode of "Taxi" contains a "What's My Line?" inside joke. In the episode when Jim in his spaced out way is suddenly coming up with brilliant ideas for TV shows for desperate network executive Martin Short (and not getting any compensation for his efforts), Martin at one point shows Jim a picture of his children, "Dorothy, Bennett and Arlene." You could hear about two or three people who caught on and laughed, while the rest alas couldn't get it by this point in time.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Preston was kind enough to share his experience with me over the phone, and when I told him the game show fans who have watched his episode over and over again over the years would love to ehar the story, he was doubly kind to write up his story. It's the best contestant story I've ever read.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 2:46 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I loved it when the panel was stumped by one of the greats!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ4os73qL48

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2010 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   VietnamVet   (Member)

By chance, would you have access to, or possession of, any TO TELL THE TRUTH episodes from the early seventies? - My first wife, now deceased, was a guest on one of the shows............She was an expert on a rather rare breed of horse called the TARPAN, and actually stumped the panel......To see this episode again would be amazing.....Please feel free to e-mail me privately with any information..............Thank You!!

 
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