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 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Just got an email from LA LA LAND RECORDS

announcing this release.

26 Tracks with

20 minutes of never released Goldsmith score!

Cool!

Here's the info:

http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?Lb51--8Qhp-gkjvv9#Bad


Here's music from BAD GIRLS (Not necessarily the LA LA Release)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txh8c0k2WFs

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

as if we did not knew wink

big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   Michael Arlidge   (Member)

So you can point us to where the tracklisting has previously been announced, can you Marcato?

Many thanks for the info, Zoobster.smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

It will be mine smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

wow forgot how awesome this score is!! Just ordered it and the samples rock!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Cool! An album that already felt 20 minutes too long, just got 20 minutes longer!!!
I'm pleased for the Jerry nuggs though. Fill yer boots, I guess smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Cool! An album that already felt 20 minutes too long, just got 20 minutes longer!!!
I'm pleased for the Jerry nuggs though. Fill yer boots, I guess smile


I must admit - Bad Girls is one of those albums that's just perfect. Like Total Recall. A definitive set of cues, perfect sequencing, perfect pace. I'm not convinced that a re-sequencing or expansion is actually going to help the score much - but more Goldsmith is always good (oh yes it is!) and I, for one, intend to hold onto the original album too because I love it.

Interestingly I remember the original CD being royally slagged off by FSM magazine - possibly even Jeff Bond - when it was first released. Some comment about "The John" being an appropriate cue title for the opening music, or something like that (apologies to Jeff if it wasn't you).

This is when it was cool to think Goldsmith had "lost it" after Total Recall. I never did like the FSM magazine! :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

edit

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

Cool! An album that already felt 20 minutes too long, just got 20 minutes longer!!!
I'm pleased for the Jerry nuggs though. Fill yer boots, I guess smile


I must admit - Bad Girls is one of those albums that's just perfect. Like Total Recall. A definitive set of cues, perfect sequencing, perfect pace. I'm not convinced that a re-sequencing or expansion is actually going to help the score much - but more Goldsmith is always good (oh yes it is!) and I, for one, intend to hold onto the original album because I love it.

Interestingly I remember the original CD being royally slagged off by FSM magazine - possibly even Jeff Bond - when it was first released. Some comment about "The John" being an appropriate cue title for the opening music, or something like that (apologies to Jeff if it wasn't you).

This is when it was cool to think Goldsmith had "lost it" after Total Recall. I never did like the FSM magazine! :-)


I don't about what FSM said but I thought the opening title music was debateable. Great music and it helps prepare the audience for the fact that this movie tries to have a heart and be sentimental. Maybe all the more necessary when the protagonists are prostitutes. Still, there was kind of a disconnect for me between this obnoxious guy trying to force himself on a prostitute and the music which, again, is great but seemed too pretty for the scene. I guess it speaks to that phenomenon of Jerry being able to write to an idealized version of a movie that others have mentioned, one reason why the music was consistently so good even when the movie wasn't. That's a small quibble though. Truth is I'd love to hear more of that kind of music nowadays.

- Adam

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I don't about what FSM said but I thought the opening title music was debateable. Great music and it helps prepare the audience for the fact that this movie tries to have a heart and be sentimental.

Yes. I always felt the laid back honky-tonk main title was meant to represent, almost, source music, saloon music, that life in this place was just plodding along despite the antics going on upstairs. It was playing against the drama in effect, and it gave more impact to the "hanging" cue which was where the score starts proper.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Just listening to that Cue I posted from youtube of this and thinking how much it sounds like a RAMBO Score.

In it's action parts that is. The meters and tempos and basic structure. The ones that aren't blatantly western sounding that is.

It's like, when is Stallone gonna pop up and grab Drew Barrymore?


But I do love Jerry's BAD GIRLS.

I guess this was his final Western score.

My Dad always commented, when I played it, how "pretty" and nice the Main "John" Theme was.

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Thanks for attributing that quote to me, Spymaster. I have no idea what, if anything, I wrote about the score in FSM but I definitely loved it at the time of its release--to me it was the first great Goldsmith action music written since Total Recall and reaffirmed my faith in his work at the time. It was a treat to do the liner notes for this release and it contains a lot of great new music. I happily "filled my boots" with it, you know, because I'm just one of those Goldsmith fans that doesn't care about quality...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Thanks for attributing that quote to me, Spymaster. I have no idea what, if anything, I wrote about the score in FSM but I definitely loved it at the time of its release--to me it was the first great Goldsmith action music written since Total Recall and reaffirmed my faith in his work at the time. It was a treat to do the liner notes for this release and it contains a lot of great new music. I happily "filled my boots" with it, you know, because I'm just one of those Goldsmith fans that doesn't care about quality...

Jeff, apologies if that wasn't you, I should root out my back issues and find out who said it cos I'm curious now :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

I'm not a die-hard Goldsmith fan at all, but I loved the Bad Girls score, and I have happily ordered the expanded release. Mr Bond actually gave this album a glowing review back in FSM Vol 1 number 45 in May 1994 (page 13, for those of you who, like me, who have kept their copies).

The reason I know this is because I cut the review out at the time and put it inside the CD (the Milan release had a very brief Jerry Goldsmith bio by Gary Kester but no other notes at all about the music...). Therefore I can repeat the review here verbatim, noting incidentally that it got a '4 out of 5' rating:


"This is one of the most satisfying Goldsmith scores since 'Total Recall'. The opening (appropriately titled 'The John') is a disaster, another keyboard lullabye from a composer who seems to be asleep at the sequencer all too often lately.

But the second track is an exultant action cue that's an improvement on the better orchestral material in 'Hoosiers'; here Goldsmith introduced the big main theme, a broad statement of the opening cue that in this setting compares favourably to his rip-snorting theme to 'Rio Lobo'. It's been ages since we've heard acoustic percussion from Goldsmith, but he's unpacked his old licks from the 60's and 70's here, with extensive use of bass and kettle drums, maracas, tambourines, low-end piano and triangles, plus some powerful low brass for the film's bad guys.

'The Ambush' ranks with his better action material, with a terrific low-down 10 note brass theme developed into a bracing fugue and plenty of urgent, rapid-fire string rhythms and heavy percussion. The quieter moments are fully fleshed out, particularly the charmingly bucolic 'Jail Break'.

BAD GIRLS isn't exactly a psychological western (the movie looks like another cheese classic) but the return to this old form seems to have inspired Goldsmith to write some of his most full blooded music in years."




Now if that doesn't inspire people who haven't got the score to get a copy, I don't know what will... wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

The opening (appropriately titled 'The John') is a disaster, another keyboard lullabye from a composer who seems to be asleep at the sequencer all too often lately.

Ah that's it! That's the exact quote that I remembered - and it was Jeff who wrote it! Funny how these things stick in the memory banks...

The rest of the review is remarkably positive so I'll forgive you that little blip! ;-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Jeff also wrote a capsule review of the score for a book (it might have been the big Musichound 'Soundtracks' guide to Film, Television and Stage Music, but I forget now and I don't think I have it any more...).

That review too was overwhelmingly positive.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2011 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

"BAD GIRLS" is my favorite Goldsmith western score. This expanded version is just spectacular and the recorded sound is outstanding. Bravo LaLa.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2011 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I hate it when hot women get fat.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2011 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Great Western Score to be sure.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2011 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

How dare you post a picture of me here!

 
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