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Ditto ditto.
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Sep 7, 2011 - 12:35 AM
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Bob DiMucci
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While its clear that all of the restoration work is being done in the digital realm, it's unclear as to whether the results will be output back onto film. Regardless, this is great news. Hopefully, after the initial showings next fall in Los Angeles, the results will be made more widely available for other, non-Cinerama theaters to show. In addition to digital projection, an archival 70mm print of each film would be nice. It would be a shame, after all this work is done, for the films to be put back into the vaults after a brief showing, never to appear for another 50 years.
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Thanks! I'll check that out. I'm sure it will be very interesting to me.
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I always have this ambivalent feeling when "classic" films are restored for video.
Sometimes, my wonderful memories and warmly nostalgic feelings are vindicated by re-experiencing these films.
Other times, especially with old TV shows, I feel disappointed by how "corny" and "old-fashioned" these things seem, as compared to my fondest memories.
But I definitely will be interested in seeing all of these films.
Ron Burbella
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I daresay that most of us don't have any warm memories of these films. I've only seen one of them, "Seven Wonders of the World," and that was in a print that had faded to pink and was in the German language to boot. So, I look forward to seeing all of them for the first time.
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I got to see Windjammer and This is Cinerama last year in Bradford. Windjammer was a digital presentation, and there was a brief discussion with Dave Strohmaier and Randy Gitsch before the film about the remastering process. Compared to what they had to work with, the results were pretty good. Just before the film started, Strohmaier mentioned that their work was never really intended to be blown up on an actual Cinerama screen.
*Shameless plug*
http://www.in70mm.com/news/2010/showcase/index.htm
http://www.in70mm.com/news/2010/bradford/index.htm
*end shameless plug*
Part of the reason I bought Wonderful World of Brothers Grimm from FSM was that I figured strong sales would see WB restore the film. So here's hoping.
Apparently Brothers Grimm has problems to overcome as one of the three panels' negatives has some water damage (I think I'm remembering this correctly). But digitally it can probably be cleaned up - who knows, though?
It will be fun to see all these even if on home video - it can NEVER replace having seen them back in the day in properly equipped theaters with projectionists and sound engineers who knew exactly what they were doing - I've been to the Dome to see these occasional showings, but I don't like them there - the Dome doesn't have a real Cinerama louvered screen and therefore the image is always too dim. And since they show everything on that huge screen there's nothing special about that theater anymore. Seeing the original three-panel shows at the Warner Cinerama on Hollywood Blvd. remains one of the most thrilling moviegoing experiences of my life. I saw a reissue of Seven Wonders there in, I think, 1960, then, of course, saw Brothers Grimm and How The West Was Won many times during their original runs. The projection, sound, and experience will never be equalled and I just don't know that it's possible to ever recreate it properly without doing a complete from scratch installation in a theater that is large enough to handle the true requirements of the original Cinerama.
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It is great news that the early Cinerama films will finally be available to see + hear - I have never seen any of them -
The only one I think I saw in Cinerama was THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROS. GRIMM --it was cool but I remember the projection of the 3 strips had those alignment lines which were, at the least , distracting - the sound was, well, wonderful . This was in Chicago at the Cinestage or Michael Todd theater -
I loved the restoration of HTWWW(which I only saw in regular release) and had hoped a similar job would happen to WWOTBG.
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I would guess that The Brothers Grimm print will be a 70mm print. The use of the term "archival" leads me to think that.
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Sep 8, 2011 - 4:31 PM
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Jim Barg
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Apparently Brothers Grimm has problems to overcome as one of the three panels' negatives has some water damage (I think I'm remembering this correctly). But digitally it can probably be cleaned up - who knows, though?
It will be fun to see all these even if on home video - it can NEVER replace having seen them back in the day in properly equipped theaters with projectionists and sound engineers who knew exactly what they were doing - I've been to the Dome to see these occasional showings, but I don't like them there - the Dome doesn't have a real Cinerama louvered screen and therefore the image is always too dim. And since they show everything on that huge screen there's nothing special about that theater anymore. Seeing the original three-panel shows at the Warner Cinerama on Hollywood Blvd. remains one of the most thrilling moviegoing experiences of my life. I saw a reissue of Seven Wonders there in, I think, 1960, then, of course, saw Brothers Grimm and How The West Was Won many times during their original runs. The projection, sound, and experience will never be equalled and I just don't know that it's possible to ever recreate it properly without doing a complete from scratch installation in a theater that is large enough to handle the true requirements of the original Cinerama.
Strohmaier mentioned some middle-panel damage when I asked him about Grimm when interviewing him for my story, so that sounds right to me.
Out of all the films I saw on the curve that weekend, the one that fared best was 2001, and that was mainly because the print was newer. It sounds like the expense and time to install a Cinerama screen would be ridiculous these days, unless you're Paul Allen.
(If someone wants to put up the cash for a full-on remodel of the Dryden Theatre in Rochester, I wouldn't argue.)
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For me, this will be worth a trip to L.A. I have some other business to conduct so it would be a perfect combination of work and entertainment.
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Sep 9, 2011 - 7:28 AM
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CH-CD
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It will be fun to see all these even if on home video - it can NEVER replace having seen them back in the day in properly equipped theaters with projectionists and sound engineers who knew exactly what they were doing - I've been to the Dome to see these occasional showings, but I don't like them there - the Dome doesn't have a real Cinerama louvered screen and therefore the image is always too dim. And since they show everything on that huge screen there's nothing special about that theater anymore. Seeing the original three-panel shows at the Warner Cinerama on Hollywood Blvd. remains one of the most thrilling moviegoing experiences of my life. I saw a reissue of Seven Wonders there in, I think, 1960, then, of course, saw Brothers Grimm and How The West Was Won many times during their original runs. The projection, sound, and experience will never be equalled and I just don't know that it's possible to ever recreate it properly without doing a complete from scratch installation in a theater that is large enough to handle the true requirements of the original Cinerama.
Whilst the true Cinerama experience can never be properly duplicated in the home. it will be nice to have restored copies of these unique movies.
I bought "Cinerama Holiday" from that guy in Australia and, whilst the quality was pretty poor and the colour has mostly faded to pink, it was fun to see this again.
The sound was very good though - so, when we have pristine, restored versions, they will definitely be worth buying.
What we really need here is a wafer thin, flexible, 60" screen that can have it's depth automatically adjusted to the correct degree.
Perhaps our friends in Japan would like to be getting on with this, whilst we are waiting for the restorations ????
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Apr 30, 2012 - 11:41 PM
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Bob DiMucci
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Flicker Alley and Cinerama invite you to experience the digital premiere of THIS IS CINERAMA in a deluxe combo Blu-ray/DVD edition (Region Free)
Release Date: Mid-September, in conjunction with Cinerama's Official 60th Anniversary
Directed by Robert L. Bendick; A Lowell Thomas and Merian C. Cooper Cinerama Presentation
In celebration of the 60th Anniversary of its premiere, Flicker Alley is proud to present THIS IS CINERAMA, exactly as seen by over 20,000,000 viewers in its original roadshow version. You will travel around the world with Cinerama, from Venice to Madrid, from Edinburgh Castle to the La Scala opera house in Milan, and concluding with a flight across America in the nose of a B-25 bomber.
On the evening of September 30, 1952, the shape and sound of movies changed forever with the introduction of Cinerama. This unique widescreen process was launched when television was deemed a major threat to US film exhibition. Fred Waller, Cinerama's creator, had indeed labored that long on his dream of a motion picture experience that would recreate the full range of human vision. It used three cameras and three projectors on a curved screen 146°deep.
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This Is Cinerama / Directed by Robert L. Bendick / 1952 / 127 min. / Color / Sound
Presented in the "Smilebox" curved screen simulation
Bonus Features Include:
Audio commentary track: With John Sittig (Cinerama, Inc.), Dave Strohmaier (Cinerama Historian), Randy Gitsch (TIC Locations background), and special audio recording from Jim Morrison(original crew member).
This Is Cinerama Breakdown Reel - 9 min.
Alternate Act II Opening for European Versions - 2 min.
This Is Cinerama Trailer re-created HD - 3 min.
TV Spots: This is Cinerama and Seven Wonders of the World ?- 1 min. each
Tribute to the New Neon Movies: A video short celebrating the Cinerama revival in Dayton Ohio, 1996-1999, in which a lone projectionist sets up Cinerama for special screenings to people from all over the country. - 14 min.
Tribute to the New Cooper: The first Super Cinerama Theater - 4 minutes
Special Photo Galleries: featuring behind the scenes shots, the original program booklet and press memorabilia newspaper ads, and publicity stills
Fred Waller Radio interviews audio only: Original 1952 radio interviews with Fred Waller on the eve of opening night. - 15 mins.
Special Pre-order Sale Price: $29.96 (S.R.P. $39.95)
http://www.flickeralley.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100&Itemid=43
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