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Can't believe that this hasn't had an official CD release yet. Can't believe people aren't up in arms, storming the barricades.
Can't believe that the only way to enjoy the lush End Title is an MP3 Audacity file ripped from the DVD.
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It's funny you mention it. I've never seen the film but I literally just heard parts of the score for the first time on Erik Woods' Cinematic Sound podcast (http://www.cinematicsound.net/?p=1166). I must say I was quite impressed with what I heard.
James Newton Howard is one composer whose work I need to further explore. I only own one of his scores at the moment (The Fugitive). At the very least, I should probably check out his Shyamalan scores.
If only he was writing scores this powerful anymore.
1990 & 1991 were banner years for JNH.
James
Yeah, that was the beginning of Not Crappy JNH. Really, 1993 is when he hit his stride:
Alive (puts me to sleep until the fantastic finale cue, which makes the whole thing worth it)
Falling Down (hello?)
Dave (still a benchmark for comedy scoring, for better or worse)
The Fugitive (my opinion, this is a modern classic)
The Saint Of Fort Washington (a lesser effort, but it's a definite precursor to the ER sound)
Really, most everything he did from 1993 until he started going clubbin' with Zimmer is pretty solid. There are duds (A Perfect Murder was the first one I thought of), but he was pretty reliable until that dark day when he joined forces (for no reason at all, it sounds like) with Zimmer for Batman Begins. Ever since, he's been running on fumes (Lady In The Water is about the only thing that sounds like he actually tried to do something worth a damn). Have you guys heard Duplicity? The Tourist? What the hell happened?
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Superb score, and it's a scandal it never got a legit release. That and FALLING DOWN.
Love both scores. Falling Down to me is probably Newton Howard at his best in the '90s, meshing his pop sensibilities with his modernist side.
Then again, I love Wyatt Earp by him. It's a great western score.
It's easy to blame Zimmer for the ruination of Newton Howard but it just sounds like he's tired of scoring films. Even his Shyamalan scores got progressively less awesome although I still like parts of The Happening quite a lot. Can't stand Last Airbender though....
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Superb score, and it's a scandal it never got a legit release. That and FALLING DOWN.
Love both scores. Falling Down to me is probably Newton Howard at his best in the '90s, meshing his pop sensibilities with his modernist side.
It's easy to blame Zimmer for the ruination of Newton Howard but it just sounds like he's tired of scoring films. Even his Shyamalan scores got progressively less awesome although I still like parts of The Happening quite a lot. Can't stand Last Airbender though....
Both of these things. Airbender has a moment or two toward the end, but on the whole, it's a snoozefest.
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great score.
I think Lukas had mentioned several times years ago that the AFM re-use fees for Flatliners would be astronomical, factoring in orchestral players, synthesists, and the choral members.
The 'negotiated' reuse the AFM has given the labels to make LE CDs so far is extended from the early movie years thru the 80s. Since 'Flatliners' was a 1990 release, it might take a couple more years until it is considered a historical recording.
I also agree Falling Down is also good. The Promo (bootleg) soundtrack that coupled these two scores (back in 1998) was a pretty good release. Hopefully, these scores will qualify for the 'negotiated' AFM fees in the near future and the labels will tackle it.
link to promo/bootleg info----http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=32765
Here's where I get to talk about things only I know or give a crap about. Back in '93, I called Gary LeMel's office (he was in charge of music at WB at the time) to find out what was going on with the Falling Down soundtrack. His secretary talked to me about it, and instead of placing me on hold, I actually heard her ask LeMel himself. I also heard his response: "It's on Elektra!" So here's me at 15 years old telling Gary LeMel's secretary to tell Gary LeMel that he's full of shit. Anyway, long story short, I've always thought of that bootleg of Falling Down to be the proposed Elektra album, even though it's less than 30 minutes (and missing one of the best cues in the score, the "Bill Comes Home" cue---which is even used in the trailers!) and the track titles all being bogus.
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The 'negotiated' reuse the AFM has given the labels to make LE CDs so far is extended from the early movie years thru the 80s. Since 'Flatliners' was a 1990 release, it might take a couple more years until it is considered a historical recording.
This doesn't really seem to be the case as several AFM-recorded scores have been released recently: BREAKDOWN, SPEED 2: CRUISE CONTROL, FIRST KNIGHT. All of which are, you guessed it, are from the 1990s.
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I have the Flatliners/Falling Down "promo" disc. I never liked Flatliners, too harsh and full of stingers for my taste.
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Sep 11, 2011 - 6:39 PM
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neelyre
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The 'negotiated' reuse the AFM has given the labels to make LE CDs so far is extended from the early movie years thru the 80s. Since 'Flatliners' was a 1990 release, it might take a couple more years until it is considered a historical recording.
This doesn't really seem to be the case as several AFM-recorded scores have been released recently: BREAKDOWN, SPEED 2: CRUISE CONTROL, FIRST KNIGHT. All of which are, you guessed it, are from the 1990s.
You have a point. Can't answer specifically for why these and not others. My guess is for 'Breakdown' and 'Speed 2', the scores could have either had smaller orchestras (players) and thus a re-use was more negotiable (since the # of players helps determine the overall fee), or new 'big wigs' at the studios were will willing to help shepherd them through.
As far as First Knight, that might be the result of a situation similar to the Poltergeist II (Intrada originally paid full AFM fee for the first 30 minute album, then AFM adjusted it's fee to 50% so Intrada later issued it's 53 min CD re-issue). 'First Knight's first CD was 40 min (1995), and maybe released at that length for label preference. Later, the good boys at La-La Land decided to negotiated the license rights from Epic records (or whatever studio) to re-issue the album and weren't liable for more AFM fees.
This is just guessing and hypothesis. I really have no 'insider info', I prefer to watch football instead 
R
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