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 Posted:   Nov 6, 2011 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Why is MIDWAY 24.95 from SAE when it is 19.98 from the VS site?

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2011 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Why is MIDWAY 24.95 from SAE when it is 19.98 from the VS site?

Because while many of the labels work with each other at wholesale rates, Varèse does not (at least for their VCL offerings). They charge SAE (and other retailers) just as much as they charge their customers. In order to profit, the other retailers need to charge more. So it's a little more than you'd pay from Varèse now, but a lot less than you'd pay on eBay once Varèse is sold out.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2011 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)

Why is MIDWAY 24.95 from SAE when it is 19.98 from the VS site?

I saw that before I ordered and bought it from VA..

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2011 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Why is MIDWAY 24.95 from SAE when it is 19.98 from the VS site?

Because while many of the labels work with each other at wholesale rates, Varèse does not (at least for their VCL offerings). They charge SAE (and other retailers) just as much as they charge their customers. In order to profit, the other retailers need to charge more. So it's a little more than you'd pay from Varèse now, but a lot less than you'd pay on eBay once Varèse is sold out.


Thanks for the information.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2011 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)

Mine arrived the other day and I listened to it last nite. Considering the age of the master tapes it wasn't too bad though not as good as the Sensurround speakers which my subs can't emulate. I always remember seeing this as a road show ans after the CIC logo played there was the "Your attention please...." of the Sensurround info message and then the womp thru the theater where the film was spliced to the main movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2011 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I'm just going to add to the chorus of approval on this one.
The sound on the last two score tracks isn't even THAT bad, just a bit boxier than the other stuff on there. I was expecting worse so it came as a relief when I played them.
It was great hearing the proper tempo's and greater urgency of the score recording after the more languid re-recording, which I do still appreciate and now even more for the complete versions of the lost/damaged tracks.
It's a great package all-round (I love the liner notes and design of the whole thing).
Hearing tendrils of other scores by Williams from that period (Earthquake, Towering Inferno, Jaws) just adds to the buzz I got from this score.
I'm one happy camper!! smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2012 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

What a gem from the disaster laden 70s. First off, the last two tracks - brilliant tribute pieces by the maestro. I hadn't heard The Men Of The Yorktown before, in spite of seeing the film. The 'by jove, we did it' tipped hat to Walton is so acute in the opening it's as regal (and briefly British) as it gets. Then the Williams style takes the helm. His airforce experience and undoubted knowledge of the historic events imbue the music with warm and heartfelt sentiment. Also, the Midway March I've heard as a concert piece from the compilation disc (and probably live) before, but that fabulously upbeat virtuoso trumpet flourish at 1:58 is new to me. Puts a smile on my face every time.

There's been some talk of the overuse of stock footage, both here and in the liner notes - which make clear as having something to do with director John Guillermin departing the project. It seems he was not in favour of their incorporation. Yet, from my recollection the pivotal moment of the battle, track 14 - Burning Carriers - begins with heightened musical and emotive tumult as the cinematic image takes in the vista (miniature shot) of the japanese carriers ablaze in the distance - with lone american witness George Gay bobbing about in his liferaft (matted into the shot?). That is a moment from the film etched in memory both visually, musically and otherwise.

What a shame about the stereo action pieces. There seems to have been a slight edit problem because the start of track 17, Matt Takes Off . . . cues in fractionally after the music actually begins. To my ears, it is ever so briefly truncated. I really like the orchestral tonal blending from 00:18 to 00:46 of that track. It captures the nautical sense of moving from the deck at sea level to danger-infested altitude, suggesting the solitude of the naval aviator carrying out his mission. The film may have faded out via a dissolve from the takeoff scene and faded in to Matt established at cruising altitude. That could account for the 'bridge' in the musical tone. Dissolves were so common once upon a time. They were usually employed to switch between scenes over 24 frames (a duration of one second in time.) If this is what happens in the film then Williams does indeed follow the old and long established rule of flipping from one side of the coin to the other using a form of musical fusion. The reason I elaborate here is because I haven't seen the film for a long time, however, my impression is that Williams scored it as I've just described and in doing so, uses a traditional method in film presentation to noteworthy effect. If only this music had been 'caught' in stereo.

It took it's time getting here. As Mike points out, the time from the historic battle to the cinematic release is about a year shorter than the period between the cinematic release and this CD. Thankyou, Varese Sarabande.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   koolman   (Member)

I ordered and listened to this 2011 version of Midway from the original 1976 Williams-conducted scoring session tapes and I'm delighted! The opening credits/Doolittle raid music alone makes it worth the price! It's an exhilerating piece that gives me chills when the violins kick in once Doolittle's bombers are in mid-air flying low over the Pacific.

The only minor annoyance I have with this release is some of the tracks are out-of-sequence compared to the order they appeared in the film, and track 17 even has 3 of its 4 combined cues, "Matt Takes Off", "Matt's Crash" and "Red Parks Fighters", cut short!

To counteract this...

I was feeling ambitious, and also own the 1998 Rick Wentworth re-conducted version, which IS the complete score, albeit a re-conducted version, so I ripped all the tracks from both versions' CDs to my computer's hard drive. Then, using my sound editing and mixing software and using the film itself for reference to proper track order, I added the missing notes from the Wentworth-conducted version to the end of the cut-short Williams'-conducted version tracks, exporting the revised complete versions as new tracks, then burned myself a new, complete, in-sequence version of the Midway score on CD-R, for my own consumption, not for distribution.

I had to provide necessary EQ and level boost on the Wentworth-conducted notes in some instances, to make the sound quality of the missing Wentworth-conducted notes match the sound quality of the original Williams-conducted notes.

I'm telling you all this so you can do the same if you wish, have the tools, the talent and the time (it took me about 2 hours).

Great score!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   koolman   (Member)

I hadn't heard The Men Of The Yorktown before, in spite of seeing the film..

Grecchius: I heard the Men of the Yorktown march before. It was used for the end credits in the TV version!

In the TV version, there's a love story between Charlton Heston's character and a woman played by Susan Sullivan. He proposes marriage to her earlier in the film, and she's there next to the carrier at the end of the film realizing that he's dead feeling sad, so the Men of the Yorktown march ends Midway on a more melancholy note in the TV version than the more straight-ahead Midway march in the theatrical version.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   Creepshow2   (Member)

While ordering some of Varese's latest Club titles tonight I ordered this as well. Their site lists that there are less than 25 left. Better order if you want this one!

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2014 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

While ordering some of Varese's latest Club titles tonight I ordered this as well. Their site lists that there are less than 25 left. Better order if you want this one!

It's now sold out at Varese.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I'm really getting into this score!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I'm kicking myself in the nut for not getting this when I had the chance. >frown

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

I'm kicking myself in the nut for not getting this when I had the chance. >frown

Which nut?

 
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