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 Posted:   Jun 17, 2002 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   JeffBond   (Member)

Oh, boy is this thing good. I'm sure I'll hear the usual complaints from the usual people on the order of "too many notes" but I'm in love with this album--and the movie is getting stellar reviews too. Color me excited.

By the way--there is no electronic music in Star Wars: A New Hope (I HATE calling it that). Not even in the "Land of the Sandpeople" cue. If you think there's electronic music in this cue you must think there's electronic music in Planet of the Apes--it's very much the same approach.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2002 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Dr Know   (Member)

Oh, Jeff -- you're getting me excited too! It is off to the cd store tomorrow at lunchtime, and I'll see the film on Friday. Can't wait!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   thinredline98   (Member)

I got this cd over the weekend. Absolutely fab! I'll take this more than Star Wars Episode 2 and you can easily tell that Williams' was more inspired for this movie than SW. Very original and entertaining album. I'll definetly see this movie!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 2:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Jeff, My boy...
How can you NOT hear that 2-second swirl of electronics in the Sandpeople cue? Man, I wished you lived near me, so I could invite you over and point it out exactly!
Anyhoo...
I was shocked when Ebert and Roeper praised this movie! I'm really psyched for the flick now!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 2:22 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I'm really quite ambivalent about anything starring Tom Cruise but the fact it's Spielberg/Williams...well, attention as always must be paid.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Jeff, will you treat us to a full review on Film Score Daily some time soon?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   medhorn   (Member)

I'm really quite ambivalent about anything starring Tom Cruise but the fact it's Spielberg/Williams...well, attention as always must be paid.
I agree with you. But on the other hand, Spielberg and Williams creative powers should never be understimated.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   JeffBond   (Member)

Jim Cleveland--I listened to this whole cue blasting at top volume in the confined space of my car, and I just hear no electronics. And it makes no sense that Williams would have used electronics for TWO SECONDS in this otherwise completely old fashioned, acoustic score. Seriously, what says "futuristic electronics" about the Sandpeople?

Even if something SOUNDS electronic in there (which I dispute), that doesn't mean the sound was produced electronically--listen to Planet of the Apes, man! In short, I'm gonna need documentation that there's anything electronic in that score. And I've heard nothing of the sort in twenty plus years of interviews and articles about the Star Wars score. Your turn!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Well, then it makes no sense that Williams used the glockenspiel for ONE NOTE in the track Brody Misunderstood from Jaws 2, but he did!!!!smile check it out, dude!wink
Oh... and even when I heard Planet of the Apes for the first time, WAY back when I was a wee little fart(Now an OLD fart, who has to wee ALL THE TIMEbig grin) I knew there were no electronics used!
I'll tell ya... listen to the track at HOME, with your ears close to the speakers. That oughta do it!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

Jeff and Jim...here is a theory for you about this Sandpeople synth thing...

Listen to Leaving Home on the Rhino 2cd SUPERMAN set....the big crescendo of horns and strings that accompanies the shot of Clark and Ma Kent in the field sounds 'synthy' on this album....no doubt something to do with mastering/condition of the masters. Could a similar thing have happened on RCA's STAR WARS album?

Off to put his head against the speaker for this cue,
Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Well, Sean, old bean...
I heard this bit of electronics in the movie WAY back in 77 at the theatre! And, as most of you know, I am a HUGE fan of electronic New Age music... I don't know if that has any relevance!big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Jim, how about an exact min/sec of the track where you hear the electronics?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

Yeah, dammit Jim, you shot my theory to hell man!

Fuggedaboutit! I, like my pal Brian, would like a timing on where I can hear this tho wink
Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Wait a second!

I don't know if this counts, but, didn't Goldsmith use the electronic echoplex to reproduce acoustic sounds all throughout the POTA score?

DH

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Hey Sean and Tom!
Listen VERY carefully starting at 1:50 seconds of The Land of The Sand People. I KNOW I'm not crazy!!! It is there!!!!big grin
If you know the movie, it's right where one of the sand people is jumping onto the Bantha.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I wish I could check that track now, but I am at work - bummer! Anyone else have the CD handy to see if we can settle this? Sean, buddy? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2002 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

Sorry Brian, I am also at work, but will check in about....3 1/2 hrssmile smile smile

Ciao amigos!
Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2002 - 12:22 AM   
 By:   SPQR   (Member)

Perhaps it plays well alongside the film, but 70 minutes of it on disc is a real snoozer. There's a few interesting moments - but even after 3 run throughs I still tend to loose interest half way through. Pity that Speilberg doesn't pass the baton around once and awhile...this sort of thing is right up Goldsmith's alley. You know: restless piano and searing strings ala Chinatown (but that' probably just nostalga speaking - and I don't really think Speilberg much cares for discordancy anyway).

It's OK, but not something I consider rave worthy.

NP: Sum of all Fears (another OK score)

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2002 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Natrebo   (Member)

I didn't hear the "electronic" effect in the Star Wars score. The one sound that might be confused with electronics is a violin slide up using a harmonic (secondary tone). If it is something else let me know.

I am looking forward to Minority Report.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2002 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Brad Wills   (Member)

I didn't hear the "electronic" effect in the Star Wars score. The one sound that might be confused with electronics is a violin slide up using a harmonic (secondary tone). If it is something else let me know.

I am looking forward to Minority Report.


That's exactly what it is, and perhaps with the addition of a piccolo.

 
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