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 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 12:59 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Both by Jerry Goldsmith with similar "In the air conflict" themes, which score do you prefer? AIR FORCE ONE may have more of a theme with it's Main Presidential material and EXECUTIVE DECISION may have a touch more Middle East Ethnicity, but it seems to many that both scores are basically interchangeable.

Do you prefer one to another or do you think one is better Goldsmith than the other?

On a gut feeling, which do you enjoy more or would you rate the enjoyability equal?

I personally really like the AIR FORCE ONE Main Theme and would go for that, for that reason. The action music is really pretty much interchangeable between both films, but the President's Theme give it an extra kick.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

I like both scores, but prefer Air Force One. A lot of Executive Decision is "sneaking around"-type music (which is appropriate for the film, of course, and works wonderfully in context), whereas Air Force One has a lot more action to go with the suspense, making for more variety to listen to.

I'm fine with the Executive Decision OST, but would buy an expanded Air Force One in a heartbeat. (Although it's possible we'll never get one. frown )

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 3:39 AM   
 By:   Mister L   (Member)

(Although it's possible we'll never get one. frown )

Why´s that? Well, Varese hasn´t exactly been very productive with expansions what comes to their 90´s Goldsmith scores, but do they still hold the rights to every one of them?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 3:46 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Air Force One because of the theme and some genuine standout action cues, can't wait for a deluxe edition!

Executive Decision is more auto pilot Goldsmith.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, it's not even a contest. Air Force One is clearly superior, though I do love that hair-raising moment in "The Sleeper" cue for Kurt Russell's desperate lunging across the seats when he realizes who the actual sleeper is. Fantastic moment for the strings, before the Total Recall-sounding action starts up again.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Executive Decision is my fav. While the whole score is 79 mins, only about 50 of that stands out. Would love to see an expanded issue. That three minute + cue as the Ramora approaches the plane is one of my favorite unreleased cues from a 90's movie.

And Joel McNeeley's ghost writing on Air Force One has the most memorable of cues for this listener.

Time to get crackin' Varese!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

I'd get both, but would be much more excited by AIR FORCE ONE.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)



And Joel McNeeley's ghost writing on Air Force One has the most memorable of cues for this listener.



It's not ghostwriting. McNeely was credited in the film.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR like them both!

Great scores!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

The main theme from Executive Decision, but with the action parts of Air Force One!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

Without a doubt, Air Force One. I know a good portion of AFO's score was based off Executive Decision but I don't like it as much as AFO. E.D. is not as near as enjoyable as AFO is.

Speaking of I'll fire up the unmentionable for Air Force One now.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

The main theme from Executive Decision, but with the action parts of Air Force One!

This.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Air Force One is the better score, Executive Decision is the better movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   MattyT   (Member)



And Joel McNeeley's ghost writing on Air Force One has the most memorable of cues for this listener.



It's not ghostwriting. McNeely was credited in the film.


McNeely is underrated. I think he is a great composer. He needs more high profile projects.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)


McNeely is underrated. I think he is a great composer. He needs more high profile projects.


It would be great if McNeely got more "high profiled projects" but he's writing some absolutely stunning music for Disney and their Tinker Bell series of films! They are among some of my most played scores as of late! Hopefully one day some one will release them commercially for everyone else to enjoy!

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

I'm fine with the Executive Decision OST, but would buy an expanded Air Force One in a heartbeat.

For me it is rather vice versa.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Air Force One is the better score, Executive Decision is the better movie.

^This. Executive Decision has a likable goofiness to it whereas Air Force One takes itself a little too seriously, especially in the situation room scenes with Glenn Close and Co.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Executive Decision has a likable goofiness to it whereas Air Force One takes itself a little too seriously, especially in the situation room scenes with Glenn Close and Co.

Well, first off - Air Force One has one of the worst line readings I've ever heard in a film. Glen Close barking "HOW THE HELL DID THEY GET AIR FORCE ONE" is one of the most forced bits of acting I've ever witnessed. Its said with all the same drama as if you were to yell Mechanically Separated Chicken off the back of a Slim Jim.

And when Jurgen Prochnow smiles as he's putting on his hat to leave jail? Thats what did me in.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

^This. Executive Decision has a likable goofiness to it whereas Air Force One takes itself a little too seriously, especially in the situation room scenes with Glenn Close and Co.

Air Force One took itself too seriously? I've always felt it was just a big fun popcorn movie that knew it was a big fun popcorn movie. I enjoy both films, but AFO has more re-watchability for me because of its pacing and action.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

^This. Executive Decision has a likable goofiness to it whereas Air Force One takes itself a little too seriously, especially in the situation room scenes with Glenn Close and Co.

Air Force One took itself too seriously? I've always felt it was just a big fun popcorn movie that knew it was a big fun popcorn movie. I enjoy both films, but AFO has more re-watchability for me because of its pacing and action.


I always felt that more about ED than AFO. ED, while far from a perfect movie, gets down to brass tacks: no third act twist, no traitor, no love interest, no kids... it's all business. It does what it does efficiently and frankly, it was nice to see the bookworm (Kurt Russell's character) save the day which is something that doesn't happen too often in movies.

In AFO, you have the kid/wife in distress and the traitor and Harrison Ford might as well be President Indiana Jones by the end and the over-acting in the Situation Room scenes doesn't help. Dean Stockwell's performance is almost cringe-inducing and his subplot is entirely useless. (VP is next in the line of succession, not SecDef.)

Both movies are watchable but for me, ED wins. smile

P.S. As far as knowing when it's a popcorn movie, I almost admire the setup in ED featuring Russell's character - wait for it - learning how to fly a plane. It's as if the filmmakers are telling us, "Yep, this is how it ends. Now sit back and enjoy!"

 
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