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 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

No, it's not about drinking beer. I don't drink alcohol, thank you. (And if you haven't lost interest by now, indulge me the next paragraph so you can learn what the deal is.)

Once upon a time, there was "plain wrap" or generic products, in the grocery store, including beer. It was cheerfully labeled "Beer" with no graphics, which convinced non-drinker-me that it was beer. And tightwad that I am, I bought it happily whenever I needed one for a recipe.

http://www.canmuseum.com/Staging/Images/Cans/13921L.jpg

That would be my recipe for Beef Stroganoff, to be exact.



Now I haven't made this recipe in a while (and given the cost of the higher-end beef it calls for, it'll be another long while, too). The times before I made it, I remember pouring the beer into the cooking vegetables and sour cream, and smelling a fine, heady, yeasty smell. Aaaah. And it tasted swell.

This time, though, I poured on the beer, which I got at the local liquor place, and..... nothing. (And while the taste of it didn't stink up the place completely, it was pretty darned bland.)

Now either my beezer ain't working or it's the beer.

This time, I used Budweiser. Last time.... I can't recall. It was probably plain wrap. But I can't be sure, my middle-aged brain having been addled from listening to too many film scores.

So, all you beer connoiseurs: Can you tell me what I should be looking for to get back that strong flavor I recall?

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Now, please remember a couple of things:

--The answer I'm anticipating is something along the lines of "You probably want a beer that is rensa merjin farnic, so stick to the ones that are labeled cosma-shenda smeedy flenser, or cost less than wodey clamtuh. Others will not have the strong flavor you want."



--If you're going to ask me to taste-test beers to figure this out, I ain't going there. All alcohol tastes like panther piss to me, so the first person who suggests me doing so gets a swift kiss in the puss from Guy Madison.



--If your advice is going to involve airy-fairy explanations of hop blends and storage container materials, keep in mind that I'm the sort of mope who, after searching out a cooking wine and finding a $3 bottle, prowled further and groused under his breath "Isn't there anything cheaper?" smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Budweiser can't be used for anything, including cooking. I think that's where your error lies. Depending on the "deepness" of your desired flavour, I recommend seeking out darker beers. That's where the flavours are at.

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Budweiser can't be used for anything, including cooking. I think that's where your error lies. Depending on the "deepness" of your desired flavour, I recommend seeking out darker beers. That's where the flavours are at.


I'd go further than my good friend Thor, and suggest that Budweiser isn't beer in the first place, but lager. Anyone who expects lager to add flavour to food is kidding themselves. I'd suggest Brew Dog IPA as a minimum - but as you'll never source that locally, go for Newcastle brown ale or similar.

Beer endeth the lesson...

TG

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Help needed, folks! Remember, I'm someone who knows nothing about beers, and will reply to you that a "darker beer" is impossible for me to tell, since the glass bottles are all dark brown and I can't see through aluminum cans.

Please tell me what to look for on the shelf.

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Help needed, folks! Remember, I'm someone who knows nothing about beers, and will reply to you that a "darker beer" is impossible for me to tell, since the glass bottles are all dark brown and I can't see through aluminum cans.

Please tell me what to look for on the shelf.


Well, it's difficult for me to know what kind of American (or imported) beer brands you can buy locally in your grocery store over there. But look for beer types that are labelled 'stout', 'porter', 'bock' or just 'brown ale'.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)


Harp Lager , or perhaps Beck's Dark

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

found in the Imported Beer section of a US store

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Help needed, folks! Remember, I'm someone who knows nothing about beers, and will reply to you that a "darker beer" is impossible for me to tell, since the glass bottles are all dark brown and I can't see through aluminum cans.

Please tell me what to look for on the shelf.



To be clear, DiB, Newcastle Brown Ale is a brand name, not a generic description.

TG

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)


look for beer types that are labelled 'stout', 'porter', 'bock' or just 'brown ale'.


THIS is what I needed.

Thank you, Thor.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 11:24 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

To make sure I gave you better advice, I made sure to look for some recipes for this that include specifics on the type of beer. It seems porters and stouts are typically best for this. You might find that a smoked porter is good.

Guinness Stout would be good for this and guaranteed to be in pretty much every store you enter. Most porters and stouts tend to have dark colors on the labels so you can make sure you find something good.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2014 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

The last time I did this, I took the advice of a customer in the store. He pointed me toward a brand that taste orange-y and cilantro-y. Not swell.

Following the guidance of Thor & Company, this time I asked a woman, who, following my request to have a brown ale that is "plain but strong" recommended this:

http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/uploads/lost-coast-downtown-brown.jpg

Wish me luck!

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2014 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

That should work nicely smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2014 - 2:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Good luck. I'm not familiar with that particular brand, but it looks like a brown ale you can use for your purposes.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2014 - 2:48 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Good luck. I'm not familiar with that particular brand, but it looks like a brown ale you can use for your purposes.

It's no Samuel Smith's, but it's pretty tasty.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2014 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

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Seven Beer Bats approve.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Update: It's getting there, BUT NO CIGAR.

The flavor was on the right track, but still milder than I want.

I asked a friend and he said, "You want a beer that tastes like a beer. Right?"

I looked at him cross-eyed (as best I could over the phone, anyway) because I DON'T KNOW WHAT BEER TASTES LIKE.

He went on to say I want a "lager," and recommended "Fat Tire."

(EDIT: I clarified the conversation)

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

There is no one taste of beer, but a lager will be even more mellow than the brown ale you are using. I'm not really sure what you should try if this is not a good fit, since you don't really know what you want either.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Guinness Extra Stout would probably taste great in a stroganoff, and it's readily available at grocery stores and such. The flavor is a bit stronger than the brown ale, though.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2014 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Guinness Extra Stout would probably taste great in a stroganoff, and it's readily available at grocery stores and such. The flavor is a bit stronger than the brown ale, though.



Stronger is what I want, big guy!

 
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