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May 10, 2011 - 4:19 PM
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yes, based on posts from threads here a couple years back now, warner was supposedly looking for all the elements and clean-up work was announced. so i did know, as did we all, that something was in the works. a full-blown effort, one assumed. and then nothing. no news. no reports. no announcements that its an impossible task and it was dropped. no progress reports. nothing. I just find it odd, with so many on this sight with insight and connections, that somebody doesn't spill the beans. I'm reading the book right now, and it's damn good. the movie captures the essence of it all better than i thought after seeing the film, and the character of Susana Drake, as explained in the book, IS Elizabeth Taylor. so............. geeze, it would be nice to see this. just hoping it's still in the works. thanks for the replys.
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I love this movie (maybe more than Gone with the wind) and I would love to see a collector's edition restored Bluray!!! But I don't think it's gonna happen..
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I'm glad you all appreciate this movie. For reasons yet unclear, I've always had a fondness for it, too. I never saw it in its original release, though I was aware of it. (Things Civil War did not much appeal to me at the time. I was much more interested in depictions of the ancient world. I even went to the Civil War Centennial roadshow re-release of GWTW, and enjoyed the first half well enough, but found the second draggy. Of course, let us remember that I was 12 back then, in 1961.) I found I had a purportedly "roadshow length" VHS recording I'd made from TCM at some point, back when they were showing this print, and I watched most of the first half one night, as I was transferring it to DVD-R. I actually found it a crashing bore; seemed to be composed of shots of people walking eternally up and down that road in front of Taylor's house. Reminded me of that old Twilight Zone episode, also set at the end of the Civil War, with people eternally walking on a road in front of a woman's home... Seemed to take forever. it was only in the 70's, when a b**t release of the long out-of-print 2-lp set was around, that I got the score and fell in love with it. Wonderful score. Makes the movie; gives it nuances I just don't find in the film, itself. And, when I can sit with it, I enjoy the longer version better, with the additional scenes of Garwood Jones, as well as a nasty little violent edge to Tom Drake's character. So, all in all, I still have a fondness for this film, and, were it to, finally, be released, I'd certainly get it. Even thought the track record of studios releasing roadshow prints is, to put it mildly, spotty. I still refuse to buy the DVD's of either HAWAII or 1776. Oh well.
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I saved the Raintree County from the April 5 TCM broadcast on DVR, and it is a hard 180min. If you subtract the Overture, Intermission, Ent'racte, and Exit Music you've probably got the whole movie right there.
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Even thought the track record of studios releasing roadshow prints is, to put it mildly, spotty. I still refuse to buy the DVD's of either HAWAII or 1776. Or the DVDs of THE ALAMO (1960) and IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD!
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I saved the Raintree County from the April 5 TCM broadcast on DVR, and it is a hard 180min. If you subtract the Overture, Intermission, Ent'racte, and Exit Music you've probably got the whole movie right there. Of course, this is correct. People somehow always forget about these things being included in the original running times.
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Even thought the track record of studios releasing roadshow prints is, to put it mildly, spotty. I still refuse to buy the DVD's of either HAWAII or 1776. Or the DVDs of THE ALAMO (1960) and IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD! The DVD (and now blu-ray) of Mad World is, in fact, the roadshow version that 90% of the people in the world saw, probably more than 90%. The longer version, as has been said ad nauseum until one wants to vomit on the ground played only four weeks and only in a couple of cities. Four weeks. However many people who saw it in LA at the Dome during the first four weeks (I'm not sure where else it opened in November of 1963 concurrent with the Dome) are the number of people who've seen it. One month in, Mr. Kramer made what he considered his final edit of the film, after having seen it with audiences for four weeks. That cut version became the official roadshow version that played exclusively in those engagements everywhere and was the version everyone fell in love with (or not). When it went to general release it was shorter but not footage-wise - overture, entr'acte and playout music were all removed. So, anyone who doesn't buy the DVD or blu-ray because it's not the version they saw and fell in love with is sort of being silly.
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So, anyone who doesn't buy the DVD or blu-ray because it's not the version they saw and fell in love with is sort of being silly. Well, feel free to call me silly anytime, Mr. Haineshisway. I have 1776, HAWAII, THE ALAMO and IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD in their full length versions on laser disc and am content with them. I just find it odd that since these longer versions are (were?) available for their laser disc incarnations, why were only the shorter versions released on DVD?
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