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 Posted:   Jul 2, 2013 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Hey guys,

I'd greatly appreciate if someone could recommend me some nice 'bittersweet' sort of jazzy pieces that resemble the following piece from 'Blank Generation' at 24.40
Thanks in advance!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2013 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   gmanca   (Member)

I would look at the following titles as they have at least one track with that style:
Howard the Duck
Harry and Son
The Yakuza
Farewell My Lovely
The Friends of Eddie Coyle

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2013 - 5:15 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

If what you like is the sound of the muted trumpet with orchestra, you may want to check out the Miles Davis/Gil Evans albums "Porgy and Bess" and "Miles Ahead." Granted, these also contain some uptempo tunes, but probably half the tunes are ballads.

If you want all ballads in in an intimate setting with strings, there were a whole slew of "___ with Strings" albums that came out in the 50s and 60s, featuring a jazz soloist against rhythm and string sections, playing all ballads. Charlie Parker's was the first. Chet Baker did an early one too. But there are many.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2013 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

@gmanca Hey, thanks for the list! I'm checking them right now smile

@OnyaBirri Yes, that's what attracted me to that piece, the sound of muted trumpet with orchestra - what a nice combination! What I like about this particular piece though that it's slow in tempo and has this melancholic/nostalgic feel to it. I have listened to few scores now from the above-mentioned list and despite those are really nice scores, it's not entirely what I'm after. Those scores sound bit 'out-dated' and I'm looking for something slighly modern.

Here's another example that perfectly describes the kind of jazz I'm interested in. It's from 1993 movie 'Sliver', with music by Howard Shore. It starts at 0:11:45

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2013 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

What about some Mark Isham stuff such as THE PUBLIC EYE or MRS PARKER AND THE VICIOUS CIRCLE. Being a jazz trumpeter a lot of his earlier scores have that feel. There's also Gabriel Yared's THE TALENTED MR RIPLEY which is a good mixed soundtrack album.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2013 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Christopher Young rescored a number of pieces in "Sliver", and since he's done more jazz film scores back then, I suspect that could be his.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2013 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

If this is the sound you're looking for, you'll do well to look beyond just film music and dig into the jazz stacks, just sayin'.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2013 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Shore's The Score seems like it'd be just what you're looking for.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Interestingly, I did a thread awhile back that is roughly in the same terrain, namely one about 'baroque jazz melancholy':

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51696&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   The Projectionist   (Member)

Hi, Opus666

Miles Davis scored this movie "A Lift to the Scaffold" it sound like what you're Looking for.
http://www.amazon.com/Lift-Scaffold-Miles-Davis/dp/B000I2J0HE/



I also recommend his adaption of Porgy and Bess, and Sketches of Spain......my dad thinks that one sounds like a film score.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Sketches of Spain for sure.

Howard Shore's The Score is very good too.

I can't hear the clip in the OP bc of the crashing waves (very nice btw), but maybe the french horns in the main title of On The Waterfront fit the bill.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Interestingly, I did a thread awhile back that is roughly in the same terrain, namely one about 'baroque jazz melancholy':

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51696&forumID=1&archive=0


Curious, how are you using the word "baroque?"

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Interestingly, I did a thread awhile back that is roughly in the same terrain, namely one about 'baroque jazz melancholy':

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51696&forumID=1&archive=0


Curious, how are you using the word "baroque?"


I'm not a music expert, but it's the speed by which the melody line is performed and the ornamention. It also helps to have a harpshicord.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Interestingly, I did a thread awhile back that is roughly in the same terrain, namely one about 'baroque jazz melancholy':

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51696&forumID=1&archive=0


Curious, how are you using the word "baroque?"


I'm not a music expert, but it's the speed by which the melody line is performed and the ornamention. It also helps to have a harpshicord.


OK, I ask because "baroque" is one of those words that can mean something different if the first letter is capitalized or not.

Respectfully, I'm not sure this is quite the aesthetic that the OP is going for, but I don't want to speak for him or her.

The sound that the OP posted is more rooted in 1950s TV neo-noir, from my read. It has a decidedly sad sound, suggesting the noir themes, e.g., the urban jungle, the ambivalent protagonist, etc.

The baroque jazz sound, especially with the harpsichord, really kicked in later, post-Beatles, and is reflective of the renewed interest in Bach in the 1960s, as manifested in the Jacques Loussier "Play Bach" series, the Swingle Singers, "Switched-On Bach," and others. It conveys a much more irreverent, swinging, international jet set aesthetic.

For what it's worth...

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Bittersweet jazz music?

'Did You Call Me' from 'The Specialist (John Barry)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Respectfully, I'm not sure this is quite the aesthetic that the OP is going for, but I don't want to speak for him or her.

Absolutely, there's a difference between what Opus asks for and the sound I'm talking about in MY thread. I just posted the link because they were somewhat in the same general territory -- both about jazz and a bittersweet/melancholy sentiment.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Not used in the film but on the soundtrack album. 'Alone Blues' by John Barry from 'The Ipcress File'. A gorgeous bittersweet version of the main theme for a small jazz combo.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2013 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Yoko Kanno does this kind of jazz perfectly:





 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2013 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Zaku   (Member)

Bittersweet jazz music?

'Did You Call Me' from 'The Specialist (John Barry)



This is all you need.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2013 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)


Absolutely, there's a difference between what Opus asks for and the sound I'm talking about in MY thread. I just posted the link because they were somewhat in the same general territory -- both about jazz and a bittersweet/melancholy sentiment.


Thor can't overcome the fact that Opus is looking for the sound JOHN BARRY excelled at.

Alex

 
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