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 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



I'm getting to be in the same boat and this is where I'm really struggling with this hobby. I don't know if it's the continual flood of new releases or the constant release speculation that increasingly occupies the discussion on the board, but I feel that I'm increasingly shifting towards lamenting things that I don't have instead of appreciating the releases that I do have.


For me, I'm simply buying less because I'm sick of spending $20 on something I turn out not to like because the samples were the only good music on the disc, or the description wasn't as forthcoming and everything it should have been, or whatever. I don't see how what other people say should affect my (or anyone else's) spending habits.

I also can't say "I'm lamenting what I don't have" outside of a few cases where I lament that they'll probably never be a satisfactory release of something I want because it's been released already in an unsatisfactory way.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Isn't this the time of year when thoughts should be turning to other people? Seriously guys? Not cool.

Oh well, maybe a few titles will still be around in January.


I've hardly purchased any titles this year so don't have a problem with the amount coming out at the moment. La la made my year with LW and Intrada have released a handful of CDs this year I am very grateful for. I doubt they will sell out this side of 2013 so you should be able to look at getting the ones you want in 2014. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth I say. The labels are working hard to satisfy our interest and delivering some stunning releases. Don't forget titles come out when they are ready. The labels can't sit on them. They need to start selling asap to recoup.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I'm all for corporate profit and I certainly don't have an issue with the titles - some stunners in there - but a $120 box set, a dozen discs limited to 3000 or less (many, I'm sure, far less than that across Varese and Quartet) and numerous "buy me now!" autograph incentives.... at a time when family is supposed to come first, the postal system is at its slowest and least secure, various "authorities" are on higher alert, etc etc just frustrates a tad. With the exception of a few festive titles, these CDs could have come out any time of the year. Yes, Varese, much of this is aimed at you.

It'll be interesting to add up the total $$ cost of titles released over this 2 week period (and the postage - which is now almost as much as the CD itself!)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   trstnvnk   (Member)

I think that nails it for me, I lament a lot the many albums that I want to buy but haven't yet. (For various reasons) I can name about 15 releases of the top of my head from the last few months that I really want (some of which have been on my wish list for a long time). I feel I need to get them, to catch up as it were and that can never happen on top of new releases.

I know I can't extract myself from here completely because I know I'll miss things that I really really want, so I need to work on my general desires and more appreciating all that I already have (and that is quite a lot)


Last part definitely goes for me as well. I ordered Days of Thunder and The Hunt for Red October a couple of weeks ago. Yet, now all I can think of is: I want that Lethal Weapon boxset!

Which is insane, cause I've just got two excellent releases. So yeah, I also need to start appreciating more what I have.

That saying, I am pleased the Varese Club isn't dead as a lot of people thought it would be. But I do kinda hope there's nothing of interest in it for me, cause I really do want that LW boxset razz

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Party on, film music labels. Santa approves.


Exactly! The titles that got released this week are all long overdue IMO and the more releases, the better. I'm not someone who enjoys every composer, every genre, every period so I say bring it on, the more variety, the better. Also, in this climate they tend to stick around a lot longer and if you can't afford them, just don't buy them. It's that simple.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

I'll say Quartet and Varese did bad timing just after La La LandRecords displayed their latest (and more exciting) titles.

Don't they realize that the earlier the customer knows, the best to be selective and buy?? I am pretty sure that a lot of people wasted all their money for soundtracks yesterday!

By the way, anyone knows when Intrada makes the last batch of the year?

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 2:08 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

It's only a problem if things are selling out in days rather than months.

As long as things don't sell out you can wait.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

It's only a problem if things are selling out in days rather than months.

As long as things don't sell out you can wait.


I agree with Stephen - if this titles will not become SOLD OUT! in 24 hours after announcement, and will stay for 1-2 months there will be no problems.
But most of previous Varese titles became OOP very quickly.
This always amused me - so many hopes before announcement, a lot of critical posts on FB or here after announcement (I didn't expect they will re-release this title; I think they release that title etc.) and after this disappointment - most titles from batch become OOP ultra-rare CD on ebay & amazon big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 3:08 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

at a time when family is supposed to come first, the postal system is at its slowest and least secure, various "authorities" are on higher alert, etc etc just frustrates a tad. With the exception of a few festive titles, these CDs could have come out any time of the year. Yes, Varese, much of this is aimed at you.

Yeah, weird timing.
Announcing on the 9th. Shipping usually starts one week later so all these goodies are enroute when most mailings gets lost/stolen. Not to mention delays due to weather conditions.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Does anybody really buy EVERY release that is announced?

I love the labels offering as much as possible. I choose what I really want to have and wait for what I might like and leave out what I do not need.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 3:23 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Does anybody really buy EVERY release that is announced?

I love the labels offering as much as possible. I choose what I really want to have and wait for what I might like and leave out what I do not need.


Agree here. It's an embarrassment of riches, and I have zero problems with it. A number of the releases I don't care for, so the more that are released, the more variety to choose from and likelihood of something released that I really want or have wanted for a very long time. The more releases that come out, the more that sell, the higher variety introduced, the more likely we are all to finally get our hands on that special grail that we have wanted for so long.

The more releases that are unveiled, the higher the numbers, is a sign that the record labels are doing well, they are selling well, the film score market is healthy, and that's great to me because these releases are so important as is the preservation and availability of this treasured film score music we love so much. In these days that the future of film music released in CD format is questionable and more and more releases are digitally available, I celebrate the healthy and abundant schedule of CD releases from these truly amazing and hardworking labels.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 3:25 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Does anybody really buy EVERY release that is announced?

I would refer you to the monthly 'Laundry List of Crap' thread for an answer to that question.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Only those who have grown up in a time where there actually are many labels who release scores can cry foul here.

I was a young score fan when there was only Varese, and most scores were not released at all, some only with one track on an LP with filler pop songs.

I LOVE these times where almost everything is made available.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

I don't really want to see less stuff coming out, but I certainly think all the labels should adopt Intrada's available while interest remains, rather than a strict number of copies.

I also think the labels should be more open about what is coming and give more advance notice. That can give people the chance to budget and be prepared.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

It's only a problem if things are selling out in days rather than months.

As long as things don't sell out you can wait.


Exactly this. To put things in perspective, for Black Friday 2012, La La Land released the following titles: Die Hard With a Vengeance, The Untouchables, and Home Alone 2. I forget whether the 15 disc Star Trek: TOS set was part of this batch, but it was also released around this time. Anyway, all of these titles are still available from La La Land and/or your favorite soundtrack retailer. The days of less than 24 hour sell outs are by far the exception and not the norm. We will see what Varese offers on Monday, but I doubt any of those titles will be instant sellouts, except maybe an LP reissue limited to 1,000 copies. And even that isn't a certainty.

Personally, I am glad that there are all of the releases close to the holidays. And I say that as someone who wasn't in a position to buy any of the La La Land releases, or several recent Intrada releases. The cds are out there, and I know that eventually I will be able to get most, if not all, of the releases I want over the course of 2014.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Varese does seem to be the exception for some reason. Their limited editions generally sell out pretty fast just like the old days where as LLL and Intrada titles take longer.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

As clarification unasked:

I am in complete agreement with those who have stated that the labels are doing a gold standard job at releases. Ten years ago, we'd be salivating at the mere possibility to have some of these things and now here they are (and after a great deal of labor, no doubt). I cannot thank some of these people enough for the work they have done over the years - and I've thanked some of them by phone and email, which seems the very definition of pittance compared to how much I enjoy some of the albums.

In fact, the above paragraph is its self a pittance, as I do feel strongly enough to write for several more paragraphs but, for right now, let me put that aside for a short apology.

That is to say - I do hope that my earlier statement in this thread wasn't coming off as some backhanded compliment. If we all got what we wanted in life, life would probably be very boring. I certainly would be driving around in an Aston Martin V8 Vantage Volante with Gillian Anderson and Emmy Rossum next to me... Okay, that doesn't sound boring at all, but maybe if I did it too much, it would be?

Ahem, anyway...

To those that say "Keep the releases coming! If you can't afford it, no big deal!" - I half agree with that sentiment. My money woes should not prevent others from buying something they want - I truly loathe those people that crop up like crabgrass to complain that there is nothing they want in a Varese Club announcement, as if labels existed only to appease one bloody f***ing person - but there is a modicum of personal / personal identification frustration involved when something you really wanted for a long while is staring you in the face and you just. can't. afford. it.

I am thankful that the one thing I really wanted from LLL this month was something I could afford - Superman Returns, a really great bit of scoring - and while I wish I could afford the Lethal Weapon box, I was able to afford the Star Trek one last year, so you take the punches when you get hit. You shrug it off as best you can.

However, as the bills mount (especially following the yuletide tradition of seasonal debt) and paychecks shrink, looking for a second job part-time just so you have a little more "kitty in the till" (yes, I am old) makes it feel less like an enjoyable hobby and more like an addiction. An itch that only spending money can scratch. And that doesn't sit well with me for reasons that are nebulous to myself.

Thats just where I'm coming from and is not a blanket statement or larger argument for others to cling to as evidence of their own situations. To those that get what they want, good on you! But if you have a job offer, let me know because I'd like to be amongst your ranks once again.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Only those who have grown up in a time where there actually are many labels who release scores can cry foul here.
I was a young score fan when there was only Varese, and most scores were not released at all, some only with one track on an LP with filler pop songs.
I LOVE these times where almost everything is made available.


My gripe is not with the quantity ot quality of the releases, its with the timing (see the thread header).. Would the world havecome to a shuddering stop if these titles had come out in... let's say February?

As other have suggested, the LLL titles will be around for a while. But watch out for Quartet and Varese. And the 1000 limited run of the Doctor Who box in Jan!

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Only those who have grown up in a time where there actually are many labels who release scores can cry foul here.
I was a young score fan when there was only Varese, and most scores were not released at all, some only with one track on an LP with filler pop songs.
I LOVE these times where almost everything is made available.


My gripe is not with the quantity ot quality of the releases, its with the timing (see the thread header).. Would the world havecome to a shuddering stop if these titles had come out in... let's say February?

As other have suggested, the LLL titles will be around for a while. But watch out for Quartet and Varese. And the 1000 limited run of the Doctor Who box in Jan!


But the world will not come to a shuddering stop when these titles all come out in December, either.

And you have already stated how to proceed.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)


But the world will not come to a shuddering stop when these titles all come out in December, either.


Yes, but why not release a few more during the year and have the LETHAL WEAPON box as the Black Friday release. I want a few of the other LLL releases before the LW box I am not one to have my credit card maxed out to make sure I get everything I want to purchase.

I forgot about the Doctor Who Box, guess that just bumped the LLL's LW box down a few spaces. The Ten Commandments Box set is first.

 
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