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 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

I'm guessing an awful lot of people here are either single or unpopular at home! :-)

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

I think the bright side is because all of these great releases are coming out all at once, in most instances there's less danger of them selling out, so it's not a terrible problem to have, though it is frustrating when you want so many of them.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Time for an update:

These are officially in Euro's but let's just call them dollars and forget the postage:

Quartet:
A Passage To India (1200 copies) $16.95
The Private Life Of Sherlock Holmes (1000 copies) $16.95
The Beastmaster (1200 copies) $21.95

Kronos/MovieScore Media
Legends Of Chima $15.00
Omaggio A Donaggio $15.00
The Beautiful Spy $15.00

Which gives us a running total of
$378.67. This week!

Do you think Varese will take it to $500?

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Have Intrada got another batch before Christmas?

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

You might want to add the beat records releases as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   samlowry   (Member)

Let's assume money is not an issue for some of you and you buy all these titles (admittedly a lot of great ones)… The question I have is WHEN will you be able to listen to all this music??

There are two curses plaguing collectors it seems. "Money", for those who don't have enough to buy all they want… and "Time", for those who have the money, buy all they want, but will never have enough time to listen to it all, because there simply aren't enough "film music" hours in a day (assuming one has a professional/family life with responsibilities)

Conclusion: a growing frustration is being felt among all social classes of Soundtrack collectors.

I bet the next post is going to want to say "Relax, and just buy what you really want and enjoy it".

In theory, it would be the absolute sensible thing to do… But in reality, we are human beings, quite imperfect creatures. We are very good at wanting what we cannot have and champions at not enjoying what we have in this consumerism society of ours.

So, to the brave Zen souls who can manage with this paradox: Congratulations!

And to the rest of us… back to complaining smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Let's assume money is not an issue for some of you and you buy all these titles (admittedly a lot of great ones)… The question I have is WHEN will you be able to listen to all this music??

There are two curses plaguing collectors it seems. "Money", for those who don't have enough to buy all they want… and "Time", for those who have the money, buy all they want, but will never have enough time to listen to it all, because there simply aren't enough "film music" hours in a day (assuming one has a professional/family life with responsibilities)

Conclusion: a growing frustration is being felt among all social classes of Soundtrack collectors.


Nice post! I was thinking about this subject myself and considered my own collection. About 1/3rd of my scores are in pretty heavy rotation and these constitute essential must-own releases to me. Another 1/3rd are scores I pull out ever few months to once a year and enjoy and am glad I picked them up, but are not essentials. The remaining third I pull out less frequently and am usually pretty ambivalent about.

Now here's the rub, most of that last 1/3rd I was pretty enthused to buy based on previous experience with the composer and/or recommendations from the board. If I were to cut out all purchases of scores that I was essentially unfamiliar with prior to release, I'd nearly fully eliminate this part of my collection BUT, I'd also miss out on some really stellar scores that I've come to really enjoy. Hence the dilemma.

The other paradoxical thing is that, when I contemplate getting rid of portions of this last 1/3rd of my collection, the collector part of me pushes back and this is where the irrational aspect of this hobby comes into play.

Anyways, the trick for me going forward is going to have to be to better filter my purchases. Given that these scores are kicking around for longer and longer, I might start actually watching the films they are associated with if I'm unfamiliar with them which will both broaden my cinematic horizons and help my wallet. This is something I used to do when I was a student and money was tighter, but I'm going to have to bring it back, I think.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Let's assume money is not an issue for some of you and you buy all these titles (admittedly a lot of great ones)… The question I have is WHEN will you be able to listen to all this music??


Yeah time is as much an issue. I have somewhere around 1500 soundtracks. A third of them are scores that I love and would play often, a third that I like and play sometimes, and a third I will hardly ever play.

While there are some holy grails I would like to see, it really wouldn't bother me if there was never another score released in my lifetime. I have my full of soundtracks, and enough where I would never get bored.

That said its hard to resist new releases when they become available...

Edit: Ha! captain_avis said the same thing before I could hit the post button!

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

Time for an update:

These are officially in Euro's but let's just call them dollars and forget the postage:

Quartet:
A Passage To India (1200 copies) $16.95
The Private Life Of Sherlock Holmes (1000 copies) $16.95
The Beastmaster (1200 copies) $21.95

Kronos/MovieScore Media
Legends Of Chima $15.00
Omaggio A Donaggio $15.00
The Beautiful Spy $15.00

Which gives us a running total of
$378.67. This week!

Do you think Varese will take it to $500?


Do you really need to buy all of those? Can you honestly say you'd want each one and listen to them track by track? Is the problem the amount of releases or is the problem the amount people choose to buy at a time? Things aren't selling out as fast as they used to so what's the big hurry?

And like I've stated, it's Christmas season, it's retails biggest season of the year. Every retail store from small businesses to the big corporations up their business and products during this time.

I'm a Frozen Food Manager in a grocery store, they release a lot of their seasonal one shot products at once. It's first come first serve for those. There are certain seasonal items that only our store (Jewel-Osco) carries. Should Wal-Mart our competition hold off on their seasonal stuff so people can buy more of our stuff? You can't wait till after the holiday's to release your best stuff because quite frankly January is a very slow month for retail. I'm not gonna wait to display hot holiday items till AFTER the holidays so everyone has a fair shot because by then it'll be too late.

Christmas is the time to do all your big releases and LLL can't release less because of what their competition is doing or that's asking customers to walk over to their competition. Business wise, what the labels are doing makes perfect sense and whether right or wrong, it's how all retail works during this season.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   MikeyKW   (Member)

I have no issues with this. We're a tiny part of small segment of a dying physical media industry. If these CD releases aren't rescued, restored and released soon, they may never see a release. I'd rather see the flood continue in whatever way the specialty labels find profitable and we the consumer may just have to be pickier with our purchases. I've narrowed my interests considerably in recent years and now just purchase 1-2 titles a year. Also, shipping to Canada is ridiculously overpriced now and this is also a factor.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I'm definitely feeling the financial pinch. I love that we are getting great releases. but I do wish the soundtrack labels wouldn't save all the big box sets and big batchs of blockbuster releases for mid December.

Spread the wealth throughout the year a bit more.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Let me just say one thing about the title of this thread. When I think when I was younger how so many good soundtracks were not available to be heard away from the film and seeing the situation now, I say the more the merrier, buy what you can afford. So be it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 7:26 PM   
 By:   Simon Underwood   (Member)

I can't deny there's a LOT around at the moment. I'm still thankful Intrada shifted their model from limited copies to "interest remains" meaning I can relax on ordering from them until January, even though Blown Away is one of my most wanted scores.

I got the Lethal Weapon set and Superman Returns, but Police Academy is on the wait list (along with Days of Thunder from November). Luckily none of the 3 final Quartet's are for me (I'm sort of interested in the Rosza but if it goes I'm not going to be too upset) but I only just had FX2 and Escape From The Dark from them anyway. Same with Kritzerland - the Sabrina set is tempting but not essential to me, the other 2 new CDs are not for me at all.

So Varese is the only danger on my horizon now. I'll find out Monday whether I'm importing anything else before xmas!

But echoing what others have said, it is rare now for a title to sell out within a day, and I'd rather have these releases than not. We know projects can take ages - years - to come to fruition. When they're ready, I say, unleash them, never mind the time of year or the other companies plans.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Have Intrada got another batch before Christmas?
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Blown Away (Silvestri) Tuesday 10th

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 3:15 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

They also said there were so many releases, that the other two they planned on releasing, they are saving for early next year.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

They also said there were so many releases, that the other two they planned on releasing, they are saving for early next year.

Good to see that Intrada, at least, sympathises with my view! Although I'm betting they're more concerned about avoiding the Varese CD Club onslaught :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Sketchkid   (Member)

The more the merrier I say. But Varese could've given the heads up a little sooner, esp considering their releases (depending on what they are) stand the best chance of selling out, and will have to take priority.

My nov-dec soundtrack spending so far is $210. That's not chump change, and adding it up did surprise me. Those of you buying a certain box set are probably really feeling it... but I think at this point we should be welcoming all the releases we can get.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

The reason that the releases at Christmas seem particularly bad is that they're a very tangible manifestation of the increased pace of releases throughout the year. As others have noted, probably 90% at least of these releases will still be around in a month or so and so they wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that the usual cycle of releases will be back and running by that time too and so that "want list" grows and grows.

It's like this. Imagine you're a kid and a new candy store opens in town. You have enough allowance to buy one chocolate bar a week. Initially, the store just offers plain old milk and dark chocolate bars, and you're in heaven because you can get a bar a week and enjoy it. As the store gets more successful, the owner starts to add in the odd new flavor that he offers. This is great because you get to try new flavors you've never tried before and you can still try them all.

Eventually, the store becomes so successful that there's multiple new flavors coming out per week. Not only can you not try them all, you can't even try all of the ones you know you'd like and you also end up with an endless list of flavors you want to try but haven't gotten to. You can't really blame the store owner as he's just capitalizing on his success and doing what any good businessman would do. But that doesn't mean that it's not frustrating to be the kid.

So what would help? As a buyer, I'm trying my best to refine my purchases and zero in on just CDs that I'm sure I'll like. Interestingly, especially with this last tide of releases, my thoughts have been along the lines of "hopefully there won't be something for me in this batch" whereas 4 years ago it would have been exactly the opposite.

As far as the labels go, it would be great to be able to better plan our purchases out. Announcing the titles as soon as CDs are ready tends to lead to more panic owing to not having money available right away to get them. So it would be really nice to know at least in general terms what's coming in the next year or so... obviously the labels cannot give specific release dates but if you knew what was in the pipeline, broadly speaking, it would help. Some labels definitely do give pretty decent indications (I'm looking at you LLL), but there's still a lot of surprises. This is probably why people are particularly peeved at Varese who didn't even indicate if their releases were done or not and then jumped on the Christmas release dogpile.

Of course, neither CDs nor chocolate bars are essentials and there's much more important things we could be talking about, but what's the internet if not a place to sweat the small stuff? ;-)

Chris.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Isn't this the time of year when thoughts should be turning to other people? Seriously guys? Not cool.

Oh well, maybe a few titles will still be around in January.


Really! What are they thinking! Putting new product out at Christmas time. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2013 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

All these releases don't bother me since I only buy Conti cds anyway. Sometimes it's nice being very selective. I say bring on the releases, more of a chance for more Conti. Don't freak out over my comments here guys, it's just how I feel.

 
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