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 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

I wrote a review of this as well, if anyone's interested...

http://www.moviemusicuk.us/therebloodcd.htm

Jonathan

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Michael, I do believe that Greenwood's score has little-to-no synth work in it. There is no programming credit in the liner (but, then again, no orchestration credit either). And why would that diminish it's purpose or value?
Great to see you here finally, Andrew. I knew something was different when I saw your name in the right column on the thread listing.

Anyway, my reason for wondering about the instrumentation is quite simple... if it were mostly synths like I thought I had heard, then I wouldn't buy it. Now that I know it's acoustic, then I probably will buy it. Simple as that. smile

-- Michael (perhaps NeoVoyager to you)


It sounds like he used ebow on his guitar which softens the attack of the picking so it's more akin to bowing on a violin. It creates an eerie, incandescant sound. Everything else sounds to be acoustic. The strings are real.

The lack of orchestrator credit is because Greenwood does it himself. He was trained formally and knows how to orchestrate. Shocking but true in today's Hollywood film composer fraternity.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Rubyglass   (Member)

DavidCoscina says:
It sounds like he used ebow on his guitar which softens the attack of the picking so it's more akin to bowing on a violin. It creates an eerie, incandescant sound. Everything else sounds to be acoustic. The strings are real.

The lack of orchestrator credit is because Greenwood does it himself. He was trained formally and knows how to orchestrate. Shocking but true in today's Hollywood film composer fraternity.

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As far as I know, there's now e-bowing or guitar anywhere on the album. There might be a bit of Ondes-Martenot in the background of Prospectors Arrive (though it's credited as only violin, cello, and piano).

The sound on "Smear" (which was used in the film but is not on the soundtrack) is Ondes-Martenot as well.

All the strings are real, yes. BBC Concert Orchestra and the Emperor Quartet.

I might email the producer later to try to get a bit more info, he might be able to clarify what's going on in Prospectors Arrive. But I don't hear anything but strings/piano/percussion on the rest of the tracks.

And yes, as you said, he does all his own orchestrations.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Rubyglass   (Member)

There's an article here where he talks a bit about composing "Popcorn Superhet Receiver", which was excerpted in the film as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/arts/music/16word.html

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Saw this last night - great! I've always been impressed with Anderson's originality and vision, but never entirely satisfied with his films. He needed something like an Upton Sinclair novel to reign him in and focus. I have only read one, THE OCTOPUS and, of course, saw ELMER GANTRY and all I can say is he has the feel right. Having spent a lot of time in Texas and Oklahoma (this is California but you get it, rural desert) I know these characters, they are hone by the harshness of the environment and the times (early twentieth century). Anyway small criticisms include there is little humor in the film, always tricky to pull off and an immediate guarantee
that someone will accuse the film of false self-importance, or here put simply above, pretentiousness. But I believe by locking us in with this self-absorbed character without a breather and with the absolute intensity of Daniel Day Lewis's performance this difficult movie succeeds. One real flaw is the last chapter or epilogue where the final downward spiral of this character is compressed and we have to fill in a big chunk of this ourselves. Still, great filmmaking and, yes, Greenwood's score works. Unique approach to a unique film.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Rubyglass   (Member)

Morricone says:
Anyway small criticisms include there is little humor in the film
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Hmmm, do you think? I thought the movie was quite blackly humorous. A ton of scenes had me laughing, and I don't think it was at all unintentional.

At times, the music even contributed to the effect (I thought that the stealth-prospecting scene that was scored with "Proven Lands" had quite the sense of mischief).

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Indeed, the film is filled to the brim with humor! In fact, I thought the final scene was a wonderful humorous homage to Robert ALtman (slapstick in light of a very serious affair) and Stanley Kubrick (the humorous final, and great line "I'm finished!"). I highly doubt that Anderson would even make a film without humor. He has a great grasp on tossing up humor and melodrama, of which I think he showcases best in BOOGIE NIGHTS.


NeoVoyager! Hooray; it is wonderful to see a smiling face here! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Morricone says:
Anyway small criticisms include there is little humor in the film
______

Hmmm, do you think? I thought the movie was quite blackly humorous. A ton of scenes had me laughing, and I don't think it was at all unintentional.

At times, the music even contributed to the effect (I thought that the stealth-prospecting scene that was scored with "Proven Lands" had quite the sense of mischief).


Yes, filmmakingwise. I guess I meant the characters.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Morricone says:
Anyway small criticisms include there is little humor in the film
______

Hmmm, do you think? I thought the movie was quite blackly humorous. A ton of scenes had me laughing, and I don't think it was at all unintentional.

At times, the music even contributed to the effect (I thought that the stealth-prospecting scene that was scored with "Proven Lands" had quite the sense of mischief).


Yep, I totally agree with you on this one! I have seen the film twice, loved it both times and everyone in my group found the same dark humor genuinely hilarious. "I drank your milkshake" is now part of our group's lexicon... smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I have seen the film twice, loved it both times and everyone in my group found the same dark humor genuinely hilarious. "I drank your milkshake" is now part of our group's lexicon... smile

And mine as well!

"If I have a milkshake, and you have a milkshake, and I have a straw. My straw reaches ALLLLLLLLL the way across the room and . . . DRINKS YOUR MILKSHAKE. I drink your milkshake! I drink it up!"

The film has many, wonderful, powerful lines that could have only been delivered by the extraordinary Daniel Day-Lewis.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2008 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Barry is God   (Member)

DDDDDDRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNNNAAAAAGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2008 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Rubyglass   (Member)

Another nice article here:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/music/article-23436357-details/From+Radiohead+to+Hollywood/article.do

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Nutsie, do you have this soundtrack? I'm considering getting it but am curious to know if the album has all the music one might desire after watching the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

I still need to get this sometime, too. I'd recommend buying the album direct from Nonesuch Records, since in addition to the CD, you also get to immediately download an mp3 version of the entire album along with an additional 3 bonus mp3s. And it looks Nonesuch is going to be having a 20% off sale for the rest of the year, so it's not a bad time to pick it up.

http://www.nonesuch.com/albums/there-will-be-blood-soundtrack

You also might want to get Greenwood's Bodysong while you're at it, since the track Convergence from that soundtrack was used to underscore the burning oil derrick sequence in There Will Be Blood.

http://www.amazon.com/Bodysong/dp/B0000DZGGU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1227310708&sr=1-1

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I still need to get this sometime, too. I'd recommend buying the album direct from Nonesuch Records, since in addition to the CD, you also get to immediately download an mp3 version of the entire album along with an additional 3 bonus mp3s. And it looks Nonesuch is going to be having a 20% off sale for the rest of the year, so it's not a bad time to pick it up.

http://www.nonesuch.com/albums/there-will-be-blood-soundtrack

You also might want to get Greenwood's Bodysong while you're at it, since the track Convergence from that soundtrack was used to underscore the burning oil derrick sequence in There Will Be Blood.

http://www.amazon.com/Bodysong/dp/B0000DZGGU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1227310708&sr=1-1


Well holy cow. That's all very valuable info to know. Thank you!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

You're welcome. I know I'd certainly have been annoyed to find Convergence missing from the There Will Be Blood soundtrack if I didn't already know where else to get it. For me that was the most effective use of music in the entire film.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

There will be milkshakes....



 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

You're welcome. I know I'd certainly have been annoyed to find Convergence missing from the There Will Be Blood soundtrack if I didn't already know where else to get it. For me that was the most effective use of music in the entire film.

I've only seen the film once so far. What scene(s) does Convergence go with?

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2008 - 8:13 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

 
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