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 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   ctblass   (Member)

I look forward to anything Silvestri, but I am a bit nervous. Paramount fired Sommers after the film received the lowest score from a test audience in the studio's entire history.

Sounds like a mess.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I've found another rumor that might prove Prospero's post to be visionary...

"So the story goes like this-," Endtimes began explaining. "After a test screening wherein the film tested the lowest score ever from an audience in the history of Paramount, the executive who pushed for the movie Brad Weston had Stephen Sommers, the super hack director of the film fired. Removed. Locked out of the editing room."

He furthermore revealed that film editor Stuart Baird was brought in while producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura was also shunt out from the project. "Stuart Baird, a renowned 'fixer' editor was brought it to try to see if it could be made releasable," Endtimes wrote. "Meanwhile producer Lorenzo whose turkey IMAGINE THAT explodes this weekend as the new bomb in theatres (also championed by Weston) was told his services were no longer needed on the film either."

As for Sommers, it was reported that he was forced to pretend that he was working on "Tarzan" over at Warner Bros., before then summoned back to the editing room "when word of the firing started to be whispered about in Hollywood". His return allegedly serves only "to save appearances" since "Baird is still editing the movie with studio input."

I'm fearing the worst...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

No one didnt fire anyone. Read my previous post on the matter. Sommers is still in charge of directing duties. Di bonaventura himself stated that these rumours are untrue and not fair towards sommers and that the test screening results were very good. It's completely made up rumors (or fanboy rubbish, to quote ford thaxton) that have been proven false by official sources.

Besides, even if they'd want to fire him, they could not do it so easily if at all, because he is a co-producer along with his business partner and editor bob ducsay. Their company is also involved. I am sure if they would buy him out of the current contractual situation, it would cause more damage to them and the project than it would do to sommers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Hmmm perhaps a storm in a glass of water, but this kind of bad press doesn't help to raise the anticipation.

We'll see how it develops.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   ctblass   (Member)

Of course that is what the producer would say. Who would admit to such an embarrassing chain of events?

I don't buy it. Sell it to someone else.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

"Of course that is what the producer would say. Who would admit to such an embarrassing chain of events?

I don't buy it. Sell it to someone else. "

You are entitled to your opinion. Fact is, that no one got fired. An act such as firing a director could hardly be kept secret and would have to be made official in some way. There are contractual duties to fullfill and firing a director who is also involved as a producer with his own company right in the final stage of the post is not only nearly impossible, it would not make any sense either. Its really the kind of bad rumor news that people who dont like the trailers are making up to hurt someone else's reputation or the movie itself.

And i can only suggest to check your sources better. As long as its not on a serious film news website such as comingsoon.net or aintitcool.com, i would take it with a big grain of salt instead of believing everything blindly that someone posted on some forum.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   ctblass   (Member)

I think the truth lies somewhere in between.

What I've been able to gather is that Sommers was never off the project. There was tension between Sommers and Paramount. Test screenings happened months ago, and the studio was reportedly unhappy. Although it seems the only official source on that is the producer (who is mentioned throughout the rumors) claims it did 'very well'. Who to believe?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

See, here is what i do in these kind of situations. If its not confirmed by official film news websites (iesb.net, comingsoon.net, whoever) i completely ignore it if possible. The original topic on the forum that started the rumors has been deleted and no other website even mentioned it since then, the producer chimed in and made an official statement. So there is really no reason for me to worry about some kind of conspiracy. I leave that to fox mulder. The movie will come out in less than two months and then everybody can see for himself how good or bad the film is. Then we will also see how well it will do at the box office and then it wont matter anymore wether test screenings have been good or bad. Its that simple.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2009 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

1. Didn't Varese also use 'apocalyptic' in their blub for Star Trek: Nemesis? Just saying...

And Ghost Rider, and Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem, and Knowing. . . it's just one of their key words for sf action sort of stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Synclave   (Member)





72 minutes!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

And no less than five tracks than run longer than 6 minutes. There's even an 8 minute track! Go Joe!

I am excited like crazy!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

This is what I have been waiting for. I hope it is orchestral and if electronics are used, not overblown. Will have to wait and see.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I still don't understand how Star Trek was stuck with a 45 minute album, but sure bombs like G.I. Joe gets a full-length release. Both were performed by the "Hollywood Studio Symphony," right?

This looks so awful and wrong on pretty much every level.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   Prospero   (Member)

I still don't understand how Star Trek was stuck with a 45 minute album, but sure bombs like G.I. Joe gets a full-length release. Both were performed by the "Hollywood Studio Symphony," right?

This looks so awful and wrong on pretty much every level.


I have no authority on this, but perhaps the choral elements added to the cost of Star Trek. I remember the debate over Air Force One, and the fact that Goldsmith and Townson wanted the Russian choral piece on the album, but simply could not afford it. Here Townson and Giacchino were able to add the choral elements, but at the cost of added music.

Perhaps Silvestri also pulls a Horner, and donates some of his proceeds to put out a longer album.

Perhaps Silvestri's orchestra was smaller than Giacchino's (fewer members to pay).

The Shadow knows!

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Or perhaps Giacchino arranged his album to be short enough not to wear out its welcome, arranged well enough that you immediately want to play it again, unlike the common stuff-the-CD approach that so often wears out the ears and leaves you a bit exhausted at the end and glad it's over.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

"Or perhaps Giacchino arranged his album to be short enough not to wear out its welcome"

Giacchino has produced his fair share of overlong albums as well. The album for land of the lost is only the most recent example.

Silvestri has a hand in the production of all albums of his own scores that come out from varese (he always gets a producer credit on them), so i guess he must be extremely confident with his work if he makes sure an entire cd is filled to the brim with it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

72 minutes, all score.

Go Joe indeed.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

It's great to have at least one score for a big summer film by a composer we can pretty much all agree on, since there are so few of those special composers left...

I don't care if the film is any better than JUDGE DREDD, but I hope that Silvestri was able to work his magic in terms of music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Just so you can see the track times clearer:

Track Listing:

1. Clan McCullen (3:07)
2. MARS Industries (1:42)
3. Delivering The Warheads (7:24)
4. General Hawk (1:36)
5. It Had To Be NATO’s Fault! (1:40)
6. King Cobra (2:58)
7. What Happened To Her? (1:16)
8. I Promise (2:07)
9. The Pit Battle (7:24)
10. They Intend To Use Them (1:06)
11. Snake Eyes (2:23)
12. I Have A Target In Mind (2:23)
13. The JOEs Mobilize (8:24)
14. Northern Route (6:10)
15. Who Are You? (3:36)
16. Deploy The Sharcs (7:32)
17. Final Battle (:54)
18. Just About Close Enough (3:57)
19. The Rise Of Cobra (1:52)
20. I’m Not Giving Up On You (1:49)
21. End Credits (2:21)

James

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2009 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

"Final Battle" is only 54 seconds long?

If only to see how the hell they swung that, I'm gonna be seeing this.

 
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