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Aug 19, 2011 - 11:24 AM
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quiller007
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I totally agree with you about the bloodletting. I've been a bit saddened by Dario's recent high gore content. His films were always about a very styalised kind of violence and the blood content often looked kind of unreal. !
My main problem with a couple of highly praised Argento films - mainly
OPERA and STENDHAL SYNDROME - is that they're too sadistic and nasty
for my sensibilities. I really don't mind bloodletting per se (as you said
it was always kind of of surrealistic and stylised), but rather the nastiness
comes through the actions of certain set pieces. I don't enjoy watching a
helpless woman being tied up and tortured by way of having needles
placed under her eyelids to keep her from closing her eyes, and then
forced to watch her friends being even more sadistically murdered.
I found this whole scenario very disturbing, which I'm sure that was
the whole point, but it bordered on torture porn, to me. Ditto for
STENDHAL SYNDROME. Watching poor Asia Argento being beaten
and tortured and raped senseless, repeatedly, is not my idea of
fun. Another aspect I didn't like, particularly with OPERA and
PHENOMENA, was Argento's use of heavy metal music, which
to me was very jarring and has no place in films like this, and
makes the proceedings even more ugly. Nice camera work
though! 
Den
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Aug 19, 2011 - 4:03 PM
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spook
(Member)
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My main problem with a couple of highly praised Argento films - mainly
OPERA and STENDHAL SYNDROME - is that they're too sadistic and nasty
for my sensibilities. I really don't mind bloodletting per se (as you said
it was always kind of of surrealistic and stylised), but rather the nastiness
comes through the actions of certain set pieces. I don't enjoy watching a
helpless woman being tied up and tortured by way of having needles
placed under her eyelids to keep her from closing her eyes, and then
forced to watch her friends being even more sadistically murdered.
I found this whole scenario very disturbing, which I'm sure that was
the whole point, but it bordered on torture porn, to me. Ditto for
STENDHAL SYNDROME. Watching poor Asia Argento being beaten
and tortured and raped senseless, repeatedly, is not my idea of
fun. Another aspect I didn't like, particularly with OPERA and
PHENOMENA, was Argento's use of heavy metal music, which
to me was very jarring and has no place in films like this, and
makes the proceedings even more ugly. Nice camera work
though!
Den
I know what you mean but i think, up to the recent stuff it, was still pretty ok. OPERA and STENDHAL were pretty nasty and that was the way i guess he wanted to go but they still had that Argento 'feel'. Folk talk about his 'comeback' being the MOH episodes JENNIFER and PELTS but, in terms of nasty, PELTS, for me, was one step too far and that was further pushed in (sadly) MOTHER OF TEARS.
Musically, to get this back on topic, I totally agree with your comments about the heavy metal bursts. In both PHENOMENA and OPERA they were bordering on the ridiculous. I couldn't believe that IRON MAIDEN track moment in PHENOMENA! Why he wants to do this is also a bit of a mystery as the soundtracks by Goblin and later Mr Simonetti are brilliant in blending that 'in your face' style but still keeping with the film's feel.
Still hoping DRACULA will bring him back to his glorious roots.
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