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 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 2:22 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

Not sure about this. I do like some of the samples though it distantly reminds me of Forever Young.

I think its one of those releases that at full price I'd probably pass on, but if it was on sale I'd probably pick up. Not that that will ever happen being an Intrada release smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 3:58 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

This score is certainly more MR BASEBALL meets TWO DAYS IN THE VALLEY than HOOSIERS.
I've heard the b**t and know I don't care for this score.
Happy days for the Jerry Worshippers though! wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

well, it's certainly never a mistake to release a goldsmith, and you can hear the man's talent in all of his work, but to me many of those tracks seem like they would be obtrusive in the context of any film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I love Goldsmith's music but this sounds horrible. There are scores of his where I find the synth/samples don't work at all, this is one of them (I put Extreme Prejudice in that category). Hoosiers this is not. Still great Intrada did the effort of releasing it properly for the completists.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

From the samples, this sounds exactly my kind of Goldsmith. Happily I've a birthday coming up.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Sometimes certain scores don't need to be released. This is one of them.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

What's the story behind this score being removed from the film?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

I'm tempted to get it for the unabashedly tug-on-the-heart-strings inspirational theme that appears at the end with No Gloves/Refund/Get Him. That's pure Goldsmith there with the drums, the sophisticated use of syncopation in both the bass line and the melody, the pristine orchestrations and the emotional directness. Too cheesy for the movie perhaps based on the youtube clip I saw that reinstated the music but as music goes I like it. Kind of reminds me of both the main theme to Hoosiers and The Construction from Explorers in that he goes for something inspiring by building the melody around resolution of a suspended third.

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Anyone find it odd that Cuba Gooding Jr. isn't on the soundtrack cover (seeing how the film was promoted around him and all)?

I noticed that, too. He probably didn't sign off on the use of his likeness (cf. the two leads appearing nowhere on the packaging of the BAD BOYS score album), but if it's how the star of BOAT TRIP wants it, maybe we should respect that.

This is a very nice surprise. A definite purchase for me.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

I have the boot as part of the bottlecap portion of my Goldsmith collection so this will replace that. The score doesn't do much for me personally and sounds like Jerry is on full autopilot. Kudos to Intrada though for releasing it for both those of us who are completist and/or who dig the score.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

I am huge Goldsmith fan and Hoosiers is one of my top ten Goldsmith scores but this does not sound good at all.

I'll have to get it eventually since I collect all of Goldsmith's work but not right now.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

so disapointed that they didn´t go with a doubleheader with this and released Fiedels score along with it frown
everyone one likes Terminator 2 would find moments in Gladiator that are alike to soo I still hope Intrada will do a Wolfen and release the true score too and don´t throw that opportunity aside. Goldsmiths score was rejected for a reason...

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Michaelware   (Member)

Glad it's finally available. Nothing is more fascinating than to discover how jg solved drama and hidden aspects of character vs setbacks and tests of inner strength.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   MattyT   (Member)

Anyone find it odd that Cuba Gooding Jr. isn't on the soundtrack cover (seeing how the film was promoted around him and all)?

Usually I like Intrada's artwork for their releases, but this one for some reason, looks very dull to me. Maybe once I see it in person, it will look better, but it's a very boring cover IMHO. I'm on the fence still as to whether to get this...the finale cue would be the reason I would get it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Listening to the samples, it's nowhere near the disaster some people are painting it as. In fact there are some interesting things going on in it - some delightful, typically Goldsmithian harmonic shifts etc. It's quite reminiscent of a few of his other scores of the period. I think he was trying to find a voice for the 90s and for a particular type of, perhaps, rather too mainstream film.

I have to say though that it isn't entirely my cuppa tea. The go-getting, high-energy "sports" theme part of it is a wee bit outside of my comfort zone... hey, I'm a "Goldsmith in Alien/Chinatown mode" guy!

Nevertheless, Gladiator seems to have its moments. Certainly worth releasing. Bravo, I say.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I believe Intrada needs permission from the actors for their depiction in the artwork? Not sure if that applies to the front cover as well, but it might be a reason why he isn't on it.

I happened to see him on Graham Norton (rerun) last week and found this hilarious big grin

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   IWalkAmongYou   (Member)

Since most of you dislike it so much and most of it based on the arty farty reasons, I gave it a try. I loooooove Supergirl which is my second favourite Goldsmith score after one of his best, "Explorers", and I also like "Rent a cop" both film and soundtrack. Unlike most I love his use of the synthesiser.
You all take the prestigious ones that make you accepted in the artisticly correct circles and make you feel good about yourselves, I'll take these side of the streets. You can have the "Alien" and "The blue max". It leaves more of this for me. Groovy

D.S.


Sure, I find SUPERGIRL headache inducing, uninspired poodle-doo at times (I do love the Monster Truck cue so no Goldsmith is completely without merits).

But are you suggesting that I'm an artsy-fartsy, egotistical cinephile (which may not be a bad thing if I were, but you'd probably have to reconcile that observation with my love for certain Jess Franco films) when I absolutely love Jerry's scores for THE FINAL CONFLICT, LINK, DEEP RISING, THE MUMMY, THE THIRTEENTH WARRIOR, CONGO and other cinematic twaddle?

It is not ALIEN or THE BLUE MAX (a pretty ridiculous film in its own right) or CHINATOWN that can satisfy every music desire.

Ohhh... and just to remind - I genuinely enjoy the maestro's score to GLADIATOR and that places us on the same side of the street this time around. I look forward to tossing out that ratty old footwarmer. And I don't even need to have Cuba Gooding Jr. on the cover, one of the few "popular for 10 minutes" actors to have less cinematic presence than Howie Mandel.

I'm sure the artwork Intrada used was contractually obligated and I don't blame them. But a blank sheet of paper with a question mark on it would have been a lot more compelling. Sorry... I still love you best Intrada! You're still my favorite music label!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

What's the story behind this score being removed from the film?


The only reason given in Gergely Hubai"s book Torn Music: Rejected Film Scores, A Selected History is that Goldsmith was dismissed from GLADIATOR "due to bad communications between the filmmakers and the composer." Hubai got this information from an online interview arranged by AOL in which "Goldsmith cited GLADIATOR as his most unpleasant experience."


 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

Sometimes certain scores don't need to be released. This is one of them.

Agree. They're certainly going "bottlecaps" with Jerry these days. I'm not one to complain but I like it when we get the really great Goldsmith bottlecaps.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2013 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   The Cat   (Member)

The only reason given in Gergely Hubai"s book Torn Music: Rejected Film Scores, A Selected History is that Goldsmith was dismissed from GLADIATOR "due to bad communications between the filmmakers and the composer." Hubai got this information from an online interview arranged by AOL in which "Goldsmith cited GLADIATOR as his most unpleasant experience."

The full story is that I tried to get to get the director's perspective on things too, but I only got a diplomatic response, which (to me) suggested that this was something nobody was willing to remember.

 
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