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From the sounds of it you must be a big Zimmer fan, since that's basically what he's about. Anyway I'm done with Arnold discussion here for the time being.
Bye.
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There is no anti-Barry crew on this forum, just thor.
Just like there isn't a anti-Goldsmith crew here.
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I've never "bashed" Barry or been part of any "anti-Barry" crew. I am just critical of certain aspects of his film music - both Bond and otherwise.
I must agree with Thor. John Barry as good as he is, is hardly perfect.
Of course that goes for every composer that's discussed here.
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Context or not: this is not a very noble remark.
It is not very noble, to be critical about film music, on a film music discussion forum?
I'm sorry i don't get that.
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I'm sorry but considering the bad language and flame wars that frequently haunt this forum, I would say that Thor's comment was hardly THAT insulting, and probably ment as either a jest or a ironic hyperbole.
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I'm not certain if you are indeed attacking Thor for the way he delivered his opinion than for the actual opinion itself.
If you care to look past the "old fart" comment you may find that Thor, who has something of a reputation for controversy here, usually has something of interest to say.
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I'm not certain if you are indeed attacking Thor for the way he delivered his opinion than for the actual opinion itself.
If you care to look past the "old fart" comment you may find that Thor, who has something of a reputation for controversy here, usually has something of interest to say.
1. I definitely object to the way Thor "delivers" his opinion:
If I follow your advice and look "past the old fart comment", I find remarks like "but dear John, old boy" which show an astonishing amount of arrogance.
He then repeats his "fart-comment" several times ("So I'm not criticizing him or anything. I'm just pointing out that he comes off as an old fart in that interview. That's all.") Very nice. I guess this means "everything is fine, unfortunately he is an old fart."
Shortly afterwards he tries to lessen the impact of his words (as if he now noticed what he just had said) by writing "...I have all the respect in the world for Barry and his contribution to film (although I'm no big fan of his scores myself)".
Yes, you are right, Thor says "interesting things"...
2. It is no secret that I do not share Thor´s opinion on Barry, Arnold, filmmusic in general and (probably) weather, food, elephants, life etc etc etc
3. Then there´s an interesting Thor-remark: "I think ANYONE - even those who prefer the old Bond films - should be able to at least RECOGNIZE Barry's overwhelming sense of nostalgia for the past in that interview."
Replace the words "nostalgia for the past" with the word "quality" and then you get an idea what Barry REALLY was speaking about in this interview...
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The reason I even registered here on this board was the constant Barry-bashing of Maestro Thor, who seemed to get great pleasures from calling Barry "an old fart waxing nostalgic over yesteryear" etc etc etc(
