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 Posted:   May 29, 2012 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I think its a bit naive to blame the films failure on disney.Sure,their advertising for the film wasnt the best but its quite posible the film would have failed anyway.I saw the film and wasnt that impressed.

It's funny -- around boards like this, you get the impression that everybody who saw the film loved it. I know at least fifteen people who saw the movie (ages 12 to 50) and not one of them liked it. At all. Maybe I'd like it, I have no idea. But the notion that the film would have been a hit had Disney's marketing not punted is a real stretch for me.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2012 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   book1245   (Member)

Here's what I've come up with!
Thanks again, Anthony.
I couldn't find what font they originally used, so I had to go with a low quality screen cap to get "of Mars" razz

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2012 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

That's really beautiful!

Just saw this again, for the 4th time, in a theatre a couple of weeks ago. It's still playing at this second-run movie theatre here in San Diego.

This time that I saw it, it reminded me very strongly of LOST HORIZON, if only for the enlightenment he finds on Barsoom, and his yearning need to return there, which, though hinted, is not quite verified by film's end.

I just love this movie, and I think Mr. Kitsch did the most of a challenging role, one which would have stymied many another leading man. John Carter is a physical man who must now finally face a lot of feelings he has long avoided, not to mention make weighted decisions about his connection this this alien land where he now finds himself...

I can identify.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I think its a bit naive to blame the films failure on disney.Sure,their advertising for the film wasnt the best but its quite posible the film would have failed anyway.I saw the film and wasnt that impressed.

It's funny -- around boards like this, you get the impression that everybody who saw the film loved it. I know at least fifteen people who saw the movie (ages 12 to 50) and not one of them liked it. At all. Maybe I'd like it, I have no idea. But the notion that the film would have been a hit had Disney's marketing not punted is a real stretch for me.


Yow, really? Not one out of fifteen? That really surprises me (and disappoints me a bit, but oh well). Not that I doubt you, but it's quite at odds with my own experience.

 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2012 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   Dalboz17   (Member)

Here's what I've come up with! I couldn't find what font they originally used, so I had to go with a low quality screen cap to get "of Mars"

The font is "Albertus MT." I've been itching to watch the film again, now that it's left theaters and hit blu-ray, so I've (naturally) been listening to the score and felt like taking my own crack at book1245's original request (not to discredit his hard work from a month ago):



Still think it's probably my favorite score of this year, so far. Just saw "Brave" and Giacchino's work for "La Luna" beforehand absolutely blew me away.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2012 - 1:49 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Yow, really? Not one out of fifteen? That really surprises me (and disappoints me a bit, but oh well). Not that I doubt you, but it's quite at odds with my own experience.

Same here. Most people I know personally have seemed to like it just fine, some more than others, but overall enjoyed it. The only person I know who didn't like it was my mom, who said she found it hard to follow and a lot of the character names confusing. On the other hand, my dad quite enjoyed it.

I've watched it several times on Blu-Ray already. Wish there had been more in the way of bonus features, as aside from the commentary (which I haven't listened to yet) I think I went through everything in less than an hour. Just on the fun factor alone, I can't see any other movie this year topping it for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2012 - 2:48 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I think its a bit naive to blame the films failure on disney.Sure,their advertising for the film wasnt the best but its quite posible the film would have failed anyway.I saw the film and wasnt that impressed.

It's funny -- around boards like this, you get the impression that everybody who saw the film loved it. I know at least fifteen people who saw the movie (ages 12 to 50) and not one of them liked it. At all. Maybe I'd like it, I have no idea. But the notion that the film would have been a hit had Disney's marketing not punted is a real stretch for me.


The marketing discussion was not only wobbly (I liked the trailers, I liked the main poster and I thought that awareness of the film was pretty high) but supposedly pointless - since the director was heavily involved in the marketing strategy.

Was it a bad idea to turn "JOHN CARTER OF MARS" into "JOHN CARTER"? Yes. But the complete title wouldn´t have helped either.

Because it was not the marketing that sank the movie. And it definitely wasn´t the movie itself that was the problem.

It was the badmouthing of the press, IMO. Before anybody had seen the film journalists thrived on declaring it a desaster because production costs soared.

This is something the press just LOVES. It happened before so many times. Sometimes, the films actually turn out to be not that good ("WATERWORLD") or at least flawed and overindulgent ("HEAVEN´S GATE").

But "JOHN CARTER", IMO, is simply a wonderful sci-fi/fantasy adventure that works on all levels.

Of course, there are many who did not like it. Which movie is liked by everyone? None.

However, this is not a movie which is incompetently made. You cannot deny the craft that went into every aspect of this film.

And if some audiences did not like this film, it was probably due to the fact that "JOHN CARTER" did not offer something new. The cruel irony is that the source material actually did that - it offered everything that has been ripped off in the last three decades again and again, by movies that are universally loved and praised for being... yes, groundbreaking.

IMO, it is a shame that something like "AVATAR" is the most successful film in history, when it only rips of "Dances with Wolves" and forced 3D on us. At the same time, a film with heart, imagination and integrity, like "JOHN CARTER" is considered a flop.



 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2012 - 2:48 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I think its a bit naive to blame the films failure on disney.Sure,their advertising for the film wasnt the best but its quite posible the film would have failed anyway.I saw the film and wasnt that impressed.

It's funny -- around boards like this, you get the impression that everybody who saw the film loved it. I know at least fifteen people who saw the movie (ages 12 to 50) and not one of them liked it. At all. Maybe I'd like it, I have no idea. But the notion that the film would have been a hit had Disney's marketing not punted is a real stretch for me.


The marketing discussion was not only wobbly (I liked the trailers, I liked the main poster and I thought that awareness of the film was pretty high) but supposedly pointless - since the director was heavily involved in the marketing strategy.

Was it a bad idea to turn "JOHN CARTER OF MARS" into "JOHN CARTER"? Yes. But the complete title wouldn´t have helped either.

Because it was not the marketing that sank the movie. And it definitely wasn´t the movie itself that was the problem.

It was the badmouthing of the press, IMO. Before anybody had seen the film journalists thrived on declaring it a desaster because production costs soared.

This is something the press just LOVES. It happened before so many times. Sometimes, the films actually turn out to be not that good ("WATERWORLD") or at least flawed and overindulgent ("HEAVEN´S GATE").

But "JOHN CARTER", IMO, is simply a wonderful sci-fi/fantasy adventure that works on all levels.

Of course, there are many who did not like it. Which movie is liked by everyone? None.

However, this is not a movie which is incompetently made. You cannot deny the craft that went into every aspect of this film.

And if some audiences did not like this film, it was probably due to the fact that "JOHN CARTER" did not offer something new. The cruel irony is that the source material actually did that - it offered everything that has been ripped off in the last three decades again and again, by movies that are universally loved and praised for being... yes, groundbreaking.

IMO, it is a shame that something like "AVATAR" is the most successful film in history, when it only rips off "Dances with Wolves" and forced 3D on us. At the same time, a film with heart, imagination and integrity, like "JOHN CARTER" is considered a flop.



 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2012 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

What a fantastic score. Finally got the CD this week, and I am in love.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2012 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

What a fantastic score. Finally got the CD this week, and I am in love.

YES. It's so fantastic, such an amazing listen. Too bad the movie flopped and we most likely won't hear what Giacchino would have done on the second trip to Barsoom.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2012 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   book1245   (Member)

Dalboz17, that looks great!!! I'm replacing my album art with that in iTunes as soon as I get back from my laptop.

I got the Blu-Ray earlier this month. I haven't had a good chance to sit down and watch it all, but on more than one occasion I've watched the scene where Sab Than's ship attacks Dejah Thoris, simply to blast the music as John Carter catches her out of the sky.

Still gives me goosebumps. I see articles on Collider about how Giacchino is returning for Star Trek 2, and I can't help but to feel jealous that the same can't be said for John Carter and the Gods of Mars (as I like to imagine a sequel should have been called).

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2012 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

The font is "Albertus MT."

Or as many of us call it, "the John Carpenter font." smile

Great cover art, gentlemen.

Anyone know why Amazon.com shows two different cover arts? I love the alternate one (the non-orange cover) but am unsure if it's officialm, a Euro-pressing, etc.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2012 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

The font is "Albertus MT."

Or as many of us call it, "the John Carpenter font." smile

Great cover art, gentlemen.

Anyone know why Amazon.com shows two different cover arts? I love the alternate one (the non-orange cover) but am unsure if it's officialm, a Euro-pressing, etc.


Euro pressing?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2012 - 1:18 AM   
 By:   Ant   (Member)

We have the red one over here too. Where are you guys seeing the alternate one? A quick scan through Amazon and I couldn't find it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2012 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

Hi guys...

just a question for those who have the actual CD.

a friend of mine just email me selling me this soundtrack on a really great price, but... he says it has a punched hole in the barcode...

so just want to know if the punch is visible from a front viewing of the case, ruining the front art, or just from behind ???

thanks so much in advance guys.



 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2012 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Hi guys...

just a question for those who have the actual CD.

a friend of mine just email me selling me this soundtrack on a really great price, but... he says it has a punched hole in the barcode...

so just want to know if the punch is visible from a front viewing of the case, ruining the front art, or just from behind ???

thanks so much in advance guys.


The front art should be fine - it'll just be a punch through the back tray.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2012 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

Hi guys...

just a question for those who have the actual CD.

a friend of mine just email me selling me this soundtrack on a really great price, but... he says it has a punched hole in the barcode...

so just want to know if the punch is visible from a front viewing of the case, ruining the front art, or just from behind ???

thanks so much in advance guys.


The front art should be fine - it'll just be a punch through the back tray.


Thanks mstrox, I was asking this because I don't know if the cd comes with a transparent CD tray. Sometimes when a hole is punched on the barcode you can see it through the CD tray(spine? is that what is called that part of the edge of the case?) from a front viewing with the case closed. So this is not the case right ?

thank you very much!

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2012 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Thanks mstrox, I was asking this because I don't know if the cd comes with a transparent CD tray. Sometimes when a hole is punched on the barcode you can see it through the CD tray from a front viewing of the case. So this is not the case right ?

Right. It does have a clear tray, but the barcode is on the opposite side.

P.S. Great score. I'm going to listen to it on the way to work this morning. smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2012 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

Thanks mstrox, I was asking this because I don't know if the cd comes with a transparent CD tray. Sometimes when a hole is punched on the barcode you can see it through the CD tray from a front viewing of the case. So this is not the case right ?

Right. It does have a clear tray, but the barcode is on the opposite side.

P.S. Great score. I'm going to listen to it on the way to work this morning. smile


Perfect!

I'm buying it right now finally!

thanks guys!

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2012 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

We have the red one over here too. Where are you guys seeing the alternate one? A quick scan through Amazon and I couldn't find it.

If you click on this link, you'll see the alternate art as a choice to click on the thumbnail for:

http://tinyurl.com/8aoxb9r

 
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