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 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I would love to have DRUM BEAT on CD also. The problem there is it's from a Warner Bros. film and eventhough Bruce has no relationship with Warner Bros who knows if anything still exists.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Victor Young was undoubtedly the king of the "Reign of Paramount", in music, in the same way Newman, Rozsa and Steiner were the kings of the Three Reigns of Fox, MGM and Warner Bros.
Having been much less celebrated on record than these colleagues, I hope, Bruce, that your effort in resurrecting interest for Young will continue beyond the four releases in the current year and will start a politic of completeness toward this great composer, on Kritzerland, filling the gap.
Young's dramatic and western scores are "first rate" in themes, rhythm, orchestral texture, and I greet with joy this new release, with these first 3 scores.
Nothing to say, about the (unknown) titles that will follow, and anything is welcome. But for westerns, Young spoke in a special way to our ear, and I remain hopeful to see released, along with other interesting works, in one of the next three CDs, at least DRUM BEAT. Is there hope?




Finder 4545, I could not have said it better!

I too always liked Drum Beat. I hope Bruce can get into WB some day, the other labels seem reluctant or unable to issue 1950s WB Max Steiner, Victor Young, Dimitri Tiomkin, David Buttolph etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2014 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


The "Victor Young At Paramount" CD, even as a pre-order ........

is number 3 in sales this week at SAE! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2014 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

I would love to have DRUM BEAT on CD also. The problem there is it's from a Warner Bros. film and eventhough Bruce has no relationship with Warner Bros who knows if anything still exists.

Not only that, but DRUM BEAT is one of Alan Ladd's JAGUAR productions.

I had heard that for awhile at least, in recent years, the Jaguar Productions library reverted back to the Ladd estate and had been pulled from WBros distribution. They seem to be coming back, so maybe a deal has been re-struck with the estate for licensing of the films.

In any case, I wonder if Warners even controls the music rights to these films if they are actually owned by the Ladd family......

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2014 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I would love to have DRUM BEAT on CD also. The problem there is it's from a Warner Bros. film and eventhough Bruce has no relationship with Warner Bros who knows if anything still exists.

Not only that, but DRUM BEAT is one of Alan Ladd's JAGUAR productions.

I had heard that for awhile at least, in recent years, the Jaguar Productions library reverted back to the Ladd estate and had been pulled from WBros distribution. They seem to be coming back, so maybe a deal has been re-struck with the estate for licensing of the films.

In any case, I wonder if Warners even controls the music rights to these films if they are actually owned by the Ladd family......


That's a good point. I do know that DRUM BEAT in recent times has played on TCM and numerous times on Encore's Western Channel.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Not only that, but DRUM BEAT is one of Alan Ladd's JAGUAR productions.
In any case, I wonder if Warners even controls the music rights to these films if they are actually owned by the Ladd family......


If you have a look at this interesting posting by Lukas Kendall from 2006 you will see that Young's score for DRUM BEAT is not owned by Warners at all and that they don't have any masters for it:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=36149&forumID=1&archive=1

I also suppose therefore that it is the property of Alan Ladd's Jaguar production company.
And the most important question is: Have they preserved anything at all regarding this score or is it lost forever?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

Victor Young was undoubtedly the king of the "Reign of Paramount", in music, in the same way Newman, Rozsa and Steiner were the kings of the Three Reigns of Fox, MGM and Warner Bros.
Having been much less celebrated on record than these colleagues, I hope, Bruce, that your effort in resurrecting interest for Young will continue beyond the four releases in the current year and will start a politic of completeness toward this great composer, on Kritzerland, filling the gap.
Young's dramatic and western scores are "first rate" in themes, rhythm, orchestral texture, and I greet with joy this new release, with these first 3 scores.
Nothing to say, about the (unknown) titles that will follow, and anything is welcome. But for westerns, Young spoke in a special way to our ear, and I remain hopeful to see released, along with other interesting works, in one of the next three CDs, at least DRUM BEAT. Is there hope?




Finder 4545, I could not have said it better!

I too always liked Drum Beat. I hope Bruce can get into WB some day, the other labels seem reluctant or unable to issue 1950s WB Max Steiner, Victor Young, Dimitri Tiomkin, David Buttolph etc.


I thought nothing existed from WB from the 1950s. I asked once about JOHN PAUL JONES and someone said all that stuff was purged.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Hello Bruce, I know you are not ready for guessing your next release, but I wanted to move this thread up and at the same time ask you a question. At the present time are there any Franz Waxman scores from his Paramount days in the Kritzerland pipeline ? I won't press you beyond a yes or no answer. Thanks for all that you have given us.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Ordering this one soon. Keep up the great work Bruce.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 9:09 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Bruce, any further word on when the Victor Young CD will be ready to order?

Are the sales for the CD going well?

I'm greatly looking forward to this CD and future Victor Young CDs! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 9:15 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Hello Bruce, I know you are not ready for guessing your next release, but I wanted to move this thread up and at the same time ask you a question. At the present time are there any Franz Waxman scores from his Paramount days in the Kritzerland pipeline ? I won't press you beyond a yes or no answer. Thanks for all that you have given us.

We are trying to do another Waxman at Paramount. Fingers crossed.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Bruce, any further word on when the Victor Young CD will be ready to order?

Are the sales for the CD going well?

I'm greatly looking forward to this CD and future Victor Young CDs! smile


Sales are fine - printer is way behind on stuff so not for another couple of weeks - it will still be ahead of the official ship date - but they can only move so fast and are very backed up because of one of their presses going down.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Here's the clew for tomorrow morning's release:

An Encore Edition of one of our most requested previous titles - an immediate sellout and one I get many e-mails a week for.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 9:26 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Bruce, any further word on when the Victor Young CD will be ready to order?

Are the sales for the CD going well?

I'm greatly looking forward to this CD and future Victor Young CDs! smile


Sales are fine - printer is way behind on stuff so not for another couple of weeks - it will still be ahead of the official ship date - but they can only move so fast and are very backed up because of one of their presses going down.




Good to hear Bruce, thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Here's the clew for tomorrow morning's release:

An Encore Edition of one of our most requested previous titles - an immediate sellout and one I get many e-mails a week for.




Love is a Many Splendored Thing?

Heaven Can Wait?

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I suspect it might be Taras Bulba.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I suspect it might be Taras Bulba.

Nope and the other two guesses are no, too. It's a bit older than Heaven Can Wait.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   McMillan & Husband   (Member)

One-Eyed Jacks?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 10:54 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

One-Eyed Jacks?

Wouldn't THAT be great for those who missed out?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Bruce,it's nice to see you doing a Friedhofer again. I know you were disappointed on a previous release of his. There's a few scores of his at 20CF that still have never made it to CD that deserve to be.

 
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