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Calm down Ford he's entitled to voice his opinion.
An uninformed opinion pulled from one's backside isn't really worth a whole lot IMHO...
Personally I'm glad its less than the usual $19.99 and look forward to having a copy at last. The guy thinks it should be a little cheaper, that is all. An informed argument as to him being unrealistic (rights costs, remastering and pressing/packaging costs) would be a more courteous response.
blah,blah,blah..
I'm nowhere that PC and too be honest I was rather gentle with him to start with.
Ford A. Thaxton
Good grief Ford. I was only suggesting that, if you want to argue/correct his uninformed opinion, you could respond with a civil response. Let's get it out there- what does it cost to press 2500 units (albeit in batches), remastering costs, pay for liner notes, artwork/printing, license costs, profit share between parties involved, what margins there are. Personally I'd love to know and I suspect Altered States at $15.99 is a fair price considering its the original presentation ( Thor, help me out here).People take time out to post on this forum and keep it alive, assine that some comments may seem. Altered States remastered should be a great release, no matter that some here might think the price too steep. Or maybe he was trying to wind people up, who knows?
Maybe MV could chime in with his explanation regards pricing strategies.
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So we should just ignore the composer's wishes and do what posters like you want instead?
Is that what you want?
Ford A. Thaxton
Yes Ford, and your credits on such albums as Extreme Prejudice, Not Without My Daughter, Breakheart Pass, The Cassandra Crossing, etc. reveal that's what you want too...or do you think Goldsmith would have been happy about those? Maybe 'the composer's wishes' just matter politically in terms of getting support for future releases, and thus if they're dead that makes it okay?
I would make the argument that great composers' works should be preserved for posterity as much as possible. Do you feel qualms about listening to a classical symphony that it's composer withdrew from publication or tried to destroy? Man, if somehow a copy of Sibelius's 8th symphony manuscript turned up somewhere, you can bet I'd listen to a recording of it!
On the other hand, I also have sympathy for the other poster's practical argument from the standpoint of LLL's sales/financial success of this reissue being important too (and that should also matter some to Mr. Corigliano IMO)...
Yavar
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So we should just ignore the composer's wishes and do what posters like you want instead?
Is that what you want?
Ford A. Thaxton
Yes Ford, and your credits on such albums as Extreme Prejudice, Not Without My Daughter, Breakheart Pass, The Cassandra Crossing, etc. reveal that's what you want too...or do you think Goldsmith would have been happy about those? Maybe 'the composer's wishes' just matter politically in terms of getting support for future releases, and thus if they're dead that makes it okay?
Before Mr. Goldsmith passed away he asked me to run any of this scores that I was going to release by him for his review and approval, which I did and the only time he asked for a change was on RIO LOBO because we only had MONO tape and he had some of the cues in stereo in his archive and he wanted us to use those.
On those projects that occurred after Mr. Goldsmith leaving this world, his estate expressed little or any interest in them and the only person I had to answer to was the record label in question.
I have no doubt he wouldn't have been happy with many of the releases of his work that came out after he left us, but the folks who were paying for them were the ones with the final say.
I would make the argument that great composers' works should be preserved for posterity as much as possible. Do you feel qualms about listening to a classical symphony that it's composer withdrew from publication or tried to destroy? Man, if somehow a copy of Sibelius's 8th symphony manuscript turned up somewhere, you can bet I'd listen to a recording of it!
Once you pass away, the ballgame changes...
However the composer of ALTERED STATES is very much alive and well, so just telling him to screw off and do what you want in spite of him is to say the least RUDE.
On the other hand, I also have sympathy for the other poster's practical argument from the standpoint of LLL's sales/financial success of this reissue being important too (and that should also matter some to Mr. Corigliano IMO)...
Yavar
I'm glad you understand.
Ford A. Thaxton
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Has anyone bothered to check if there is anything in the actual FILM of ALTERED STATES that isn't already on the original release? My guess is you probably have MORE music on the LP/CD than what was in the final film.
James
I seem to recall a few things that weren't the album that would have been sort of nice to include, but let's also be honest...
It's one of the best produced soundtrack albums of the 1980's and I wouldn't make a single change to the existing master, it's really perfect as is.
Ford A. Thaxton
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CDs, like pretty much everything else, are not priced out of moral obligations. They are priced at the highest point the producers believe their audience will pay for it. This is how our economy works. So you can make any arbitrary choice you feel like as to what a reissue "should" cost, but it really is irrelevant unless 2,500 other people share your random choice.
What gets me is not disappointment from those who'd love more "Altered States" (in this case), but rather the sense that an incomplete release is an affront, and that a composer who chooses to present his music in a way that isn't a chore to listen to is somehow betraying his fans.
The "Altered States" album has always been a great release that takes the listener on a musical journey that actually goes somewhere. If it's not what you want for any reason -- too expensive, too incomplete, too noisy -- then you should spend your money on another CD. La-La Land is hoping that there are 2,500 fans who will buy this score as is. I wish them well.
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However the composer of ALTERED STATES is very much alive and well, so just telling him to screw off and do what you want in spite of him is to say the least RUDE.
Ford A. Thaxton
You certainly have the authority on what is RUDE and what isnt Rude on this forum? right Mr. Ford? LOL
Rude?
You haven't seen rude, just be very blunt and honest .
Some folks can handle it, others can't
Ford A. Thaxton
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However the composer of ALTERED STATES is very much alive and well, so just telling him to screw off and do what you want in spite of him is to say the least RUDE.
Ford A. Thaxton
You certainly have the authority on what is RUDE and what isnt Rude on this forum? right Mr. Ford? LOL
Rude?
You haven't seen rude, just be very blunt and honest .
Some folks can handle it, others can't
Ford A. Thaxton
Trust me we have and have learned to handle it. We have enough experience and ample demonstrations here.
And you still can't tell the difference?
I've been quite gentle, the fact you don't get that says much about you.
Good Night.
Ford A. Thaxton
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Hi,
Someone knows if the first copies of "The Addams Family" will be autographed by Marc Shaiman?
And How many units are the limited editions of "Addams family" and "Empire of the sun"?
Thanks
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"Altered States" ordered! (I hope it's one of the first 150 copies signed by Corigliano!)
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"Altered States" ordered! (I hope it's one of the first 150 copies signed by Corigliano!)
It is, though they mail the C.D. inlay booklet with the C.D. (the unsigned one's already in the jewel case) separately instead of putting it in the jewel case. i wonder why?
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I listened to the new Altered States last night and enjoyed it very much. Detailed and vibrant. Definitely an improvement over the RCA release. I adore that love them!
Many thanks for the wonderful release, LLL.
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