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Guess what, Henry? The release couldn't really be corrected! Because the original 'left-center-right' (LCR) masters were mistakenly mixed to stereo as 'left-right-center.' So that's how the "corrected" discs came out... but the early "incorrect" ones were 'center-right-left.' Also, the speed was off, wrong takes were used and the titles were not the accurate ones. And of course it was out of sequence and incomplete.
As for the "Alternate Main Title"... after thorough investigation it was discovered to be Harry Sukman's rejected main title for the short-lived TV series of "The Cowboys" in 1974. It's a theme that was used in the body of the shows, but in the end they went with a rerecorded version of Williams' theme for the main title credits. So the Sukman piece shouldn't have been on the release in the first place.
Conclusion: The 1994 release is a great piece of history that illustrates how little any of us really knew at the time and how far we've come.
Mike M.
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I didn't know any of it either until I started working on the release!
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Guess what, Henry? The release couldn't really be corrected! Because the original 'left-center-right' (LCR) masters were mistakenly mixed to stereo as 'left-right-center.' So that's how the "corrected" discs came out... but the early "incorrect" ones were 'center-right-left.' Also, the speed was off, wrong takes were used and the titles were not the accurate ones. And of course it was out of sequence and incomplete.
As for the "Alternate Main Title"... after thorough investigation it was discovered to be Harry Sukman's rejected main title for the short-lived TV series of "The Cowboys" in 1974. It's a theme that was used in the body of the shows, but in the end they went with a rerecorded version of Williams' theme for the main title credits. So the Sukman piece shouldn't have been on the release in the first place.
Conclusion: The 1994 release is a great piece of history that illustrates how little any of us really knew at the time and how far we've come.
Mike M.
Thanks for the info.
So I guess when the new CD arrives, I'll move the old one to the Sukman section of my CD shelf (which I think consists entirely of Salem's Lot, as Around the World Under the Sea is still LP only)
First world problems...
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could anyone mark (*) the tracks not featured in the previous Varese CD, please?
THE FILM SCORE
25. Summer’s Over (1:51) *
* = Not on the old Varese CD
sure? there's a track named like that
also, what part on the old VArese was partially the Entreacte?
The cue sheet for this movie is very strange, so back in the day Varese took some titles from that and others were made up. For this release I had additional documentation and a peek at the Maestro's score. "Summer's Over" is actually the music for a certain character's burial but that title was given to a different track in 1994. I don't think that the Entr'acte was on the old release at all but I can tell you that apart from the Sukman TV theme, all content of the old release AND the 1970s 'promo' LP is included on this, including repeating some of the alternate takes that appeared on either or both of those earlier releases.
Mike M.
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So I guess when the new CD arrives, I'll move the old one to the Sukman section of my CD shelf (which I think consists entirely of Salem's Lot, as Around the World Under the Sea is still LP only)
First world problems...
Hah! That's what I'll be doing, too.  I rather like that Sukman theme and if someone felt like doing a release of his (and other composers, if they worked on it) work on the short-lived series...I'd buy it. Nice to get the full story about that track though!
Yavar
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Fascinated to learn that this "alternate main title" that I have enjoyed for so many years was written by a composer I've never heard of, and not by John Williams.
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Heh..heh. The film was rated "GP"
The ratings from the early days of the MPAA were pretty fascinating. Among the G-rated films of the era were Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, The Green Slime, Head, Hell in the Pacific, Romeo and Juliet (later re-rated PG, I believe), Ice Station Zebra, The Stalking Moon, 2001, Battle of Britain, Airport, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Tora! Tora! Tora! and The Andromeda Strain (yes, partly-naked corpses and slashed-wrists spilling powdered blood were considered family friendly in 1971.)
I think the last non-children's film to receive a G was Star Trek -- The Motion Picture.
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Heh..heh. The film was rated "GP"
The ratings from the early days of the MPAA were pretty fascinating. Among the G-rated films of the era were Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, The Green Slime, Head, Hell in the Pacific, Romeo and Juliet (later re-rated PG, I believe), Ice Station Zebra, The Stalking Moon, 2001, Battle of Britain, Airport, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Tora! Tora! Tora! and The Andromeda Strain (yes, partly-naked corpses and slashed-wrists spilling powdered blood were considered family friendly in 1971.)
I think the last non-children's film to receive a G was Star Trek -- The Motion Picture.
I remember that too. When it all first happened, G was General Audiences, M was Mature Audiences, R was Restricted (under 17 only with an adult) and X meant no one under 18 admitted.
M caused some confusion and was replaced with GP for a while, which meant General with Parental Approval (or Guidance, maybe), with after a short while just became PG for Parental Guidance. Which of course then was later split into PG and PG-13.
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I've never heard this score. Can ya believe it? Ordered it and not listening to samples. Looking forward to the first spin!
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Heh..heh. The film was rated "GP"
Hey, how did a track from Return of the Jedi get in there?
I may have to take a chance on this one. 1970s Williams never disappoints.
Yeah, do, Adam. As I said somewhere (maybe here), the original, botched job disc was a super early blind buy for me, and I never regretted it. It's one of those scores I just get in the mood for every few years, and I play it for a week or so.
I felt especially glad that I had it when it was out of print. This one will go out of print too. Have it around, man.
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