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 Posted:   Sep 1, 2006 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   vwing   (Member)

It's specialized-player heirarchy is a microcosm of stratified society, with different classes of players receiving vastly different degrees of attention and compensation (more than half the players on a team will never even touch the ball in their entire careers. it also means that most of the "athletes" have very limited skills compared to baseball players, all of whom must be able to run, hit, throw and field (not counting the American League, where they don't play real baseball, anyway).

Just for the record, almost any one of those players you mention who won't touch the ball and have very limited skills can probably throw farther, catch better, and yes, run faster than you.

You do not realize what shape these guys, even the fat ones, are in. They have to be agile, quick, and durable. If it was just about bigness, than any 300 pound guy could be a lineman. But these guys are ridiculously athletic in addition to being huge. Are their abilities more limited than, say, a great wide receiver? Yeah. But even the linemen are some of the best athletes you'll ever see.

And I liked the Williams' theme, although it seemed a bit less exciting than I had been expecting. Maybe they should've upped the tempo a bit more, or thrown in some counterpoint or something, but it didn't hit me as hard as the Monday Night theme or the afore-mentioned NBA on NBC theme. Still good music though, and does capture the spirit of all that NFL films music.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2006 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Bottom Line: If the Steelers win next week, I'll like the music.

Dan

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2006 - 3:56 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Oh, P.S.

Talking about excitement in sports, how about that Agassi tennis match tonight? Crime in Italy! I'm even hurting from the tension of it.

DH

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2006 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   thx99   (Member)

The "Monday Night Football" theme has been mentioned a number of times in this thread, and I thought I'd pass along some information.

The theme is titled "Superstars", composed by Johnny Pearson, and is featured in the KPM music library.

To listen to the track:
- Go to http://apmmusic.com/myapm/main.php
- Click on "Advanced Search" near the bottom left
- Enter "superstars" as one of the "Search Text" items
- Check the "Track Title" box
- Enter "pearson" in the "Select Composer" box
- Click "Search"

Two results should appear. Click on the musical note below the track information for CD 5 (the other one doesn't appear to be working).

Enjoy!

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2006 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   thx99   (Member)

Via the same website above, you can sample 21 CDs in the NFL Films music library as well.

Instead of "Advanced Search", click on "Libraries & Cover Art" and select "NFL Music Library (NFL)". All of the CDs should then appear. Sam Spence's music is featured on CDs 2, 4, 5 and 6.

Click on the magnifying glass to view all of the tracks on a particular CD, and as above, on the musical note to listen to a track (or on the notes in the CD area to listen to all of the tracks on a CD sequentially).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2006 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   Rexor   (Member)

I wouldn't call American Football any more stupid than other "physical" sports, like rugby or boxing. Personally, though, I prefer sports that have more technique and finesse involved, like football (soccer), basket or badminton.

Darn, I didn't want to partake in this brouhaha, so please excuse me for being the Stupid American. A lot of "physical" sports involve tons of technique and finesse... just look at something like Wrestling. You'd be amazed how much technique is involved in sports, where you have to use your hands in addition to your brains and legs.

The American national sports baseball and American Football don't interest me much (if at all).

I'd rather watch an offsides play in American football than in 'World' football. Ah, this reminds me of the hit Bruce Smith laid on Boomer Esiason. Ouch! My problem with the "other" football is with the flopping, the abundance of offsides calls, games that occur entirely within the midfield, ... I guess I have to know the technique in order to appreciate the sport more.

Thor, American sports, are "smart" too. You just have to understand the fundamentals and what is going on, even when it appears like nothing is going on. American Football is all about intelligence, finesse, and technique. You'd probably be amazed by all the plays and complexities found in one playback. Have you played Madden Football?

-Rex

PS: I'm not even going to bring up basketball

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2006 - 10:13 PM   
 By:   CAT   (Member)




Sounds like Great Battle music from a STAR WARS Movie.


I agree, and I think it's BOSS!!!
Are you ready for some FOOT-BALL????
I know I sure am...GO STEELERS!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Are you ready for some FOOT-BALL????
I know I sure am...GO STEELERS!!!



I dunno CAT, that music sure sounds like The Patriot....s

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 3:52 AM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

U.S. football is kinetic (if you don't count all the dead time spent between plays), but hollow (at least Canadian football eliminated the fair catch, surely one of the biggest wastes of time in "sports").

It's twenty-two steroid-fed, college-dregree-mill-"educated" bodies crashing into each other.

It's specialized-player heirarchy is a microcosm of stratified society, with different classes of players receiving vastly different degrees of attention and compensation (more than half the players on a team will never even touch the ball in their entire careers. it also means that most of the "athletes" have very limited skills compared to baseball players, all of whom must be able to run, hit, throw and field (not counting the American League, where they don't play real baseball, anyway).

Football is, in short, a tedious exercise in static posturing, larded over with phony metaphors about competition and war. But there are always plenty of suckers out there who'll buy it.



Oh...my....god....

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 4:45 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


I love football!

lk

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   The_Mark_of_Score-O   (Member)

But can it ever love you back?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   Rexor   (Member)

Sure it can. Especially if your team (including your fantasy team) wins and you happen to have placed a couple of wagers on the games.

-Rex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   crazyunclerolo   (Member)

'Tis better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   Adam S.   (Member)

To me its revealing how different a sport can look to different people. Its not unlike music in the sense that one has to cultivate an interest in order to fully appreciate what it has to offer. Soccer can look like a boring display of futility for some but is regarded as something beautiful for a lot of the world. American football is less popular worldwide but certanly no better or worse (except from the point of view of the danger it poses for the people who play it.)

People can of course invent their own criteria like The Mark of Scoro did but that’s mostly just arbitrary. He complains about the diversification of skills in American football and someody could just as easily say that’s why they like football. There’s nothing
intrinsically superior about either vantage point.

- Adam

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2006 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

As a heterosexual male, I'm grateful that football provides a society-sanctioned outlet for my latent homosexual tendencies.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2006 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   The_Mark_of_Score-O   (Member)

Sure it can. Especially if your team (including your fantasy team) wins and you happen to have placed a couple of wagers on the games.

That doesn't satisfy any definition of the word love. That's just serendipitous exploitation.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2006 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   crazyunclerolo   (Member)

That doesn't satisfy any definition of the word love. That's just serendipitous exploitation.

Back in the Seventies, Barry White took his song "Serendipitous Exploitation" to Number One on the "Love Chart":

SerenDIPitous EXploitation...
That's what you do to ME, girl!
SerenDIPitous EXploitation...
You know our love ain't FREE, girl!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2006 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

As a heterosexual male, I'm grateful that football provides a society-sanctioned outlet for my latent homosexual tendencies.

Now that was funny! Just what I say about rugby players...

Which brings me on to another point.

Why, when people from the USA and the UK get onto sport, does it invariably compare American football with "soccer"? A much better comparison is rugby league, played in many other English-speaking countries and involving huge athletes whacking each other to the ground in a series of six tackles (like your "plays").

It seems to me that the obvious differences are that in RL the ball has to be grounded for a touchdown, the forward pass isn't allowed, there are no helmets (although I believe some body padding is used), and the same players contest attacking and defensive play, so there are few breaks in the game.

You should try it sometime - you might even prefer it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2006 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   CAT   (Member)

No thanks...I'm keeping my helmet.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2006 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   crimedog   (Member)



Now that was funny! Just what I say about rugby players...

Which brings me on to another point.

Why, when people from the USA and the UK get onto sport, does it invariably compare American football with "soccer"? A much better comparison is rugby league, played in many other English-speaking countries and involving huge athletes whacking each other to the ground in a series of six tackles (like your "plays").

It seems to me that the obvious differences are that in RL the ball has to be grounded for a touchdown, the forward pass isn't allowed, there are no helmets (although I believe some body padding is used), and the same players contest attacking and defensive play, so there are few breaks in the game.

You should try it sometime - you might even prefer it.


Don't forget Australian Rules Football!

 
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