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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: FSM News and Notes—Spring 2009 by Lukas Kendall
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)


5- Could this be an extended CHEYENNE AUTUMN?



Man, that would make me happy. Not that it fits any of the clues. But I'd be thrilled to get this one, nonetheless!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Chris in PA   (Member)

Interesting connection:

Both TZ:TM and Gremlins are Warner Brothers pictures with heavy involvement by Spielberg (Gremlins is an Amblin production and Spielberg directed a segment and produced TZ:TM).

Actually, I was surprised that TZ:TM wasn't an Amblin production. I wonder if the accident and the lawsuits caused Spielberg to withdraw Amblin's "official" involvement.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

.....With Shuken & Hayes I think of Elmer Bernstein, & then there's Alfred Newman & Quincy Jones, but it's tying them up with a Warner soundtrack release. I dunno.....


Some comments.....

1- The musical Lukas mentioned was a "classic MGM musical".....not Warner Bros.

2- ALL of CAMELOT could not be contained on a single $19.98 FSM disc.

3- Did Lukas say---"two Shuken-Hayes-orchestrated scores on Warner Bros. Records soundtrack lps" OR "from Warner Bros. soundtracks which had been previously released on lps"? BIG DIFFERENCE!!! For example, it could be a Warners film score from ROBIN AND THE SEVEN HOODS, originally released on Reprise, or THE GREAT RACE, originally released on RCA (certainly a "Holy Grail" for some).

4- Lukas didn't rule out the possibility that he has ALREADY released the lp version on CD---like AUNTIE MAME, PARRISH, HOTEL, ANY WEDNESDAY, ROME ADVENTURE, PETULIA, NOT WITH MY WIFE, YOU DON'T, etc.....

5- Could this be an extended CHEYENNE AUTUMN?

6- When he says previously-released soundtracks, could Lukas also mean soundtrack re-recordings?

7- Could Lukas mean "Warner Bros Television", like HAWAIIAN EYE, 77 SUNSET STRIP, etc?


Remember that Lukas and these other record producers are not ninnies, and when they give us clues they are intelligent, fiendish and devilishly clever with their words and can parse them very carefully to send us reeling down the wrong paths. smile

Like lawyers presenting their cases, I don't trust 'em until I see the evidence! smile


I don't think so. "Two of them are expansions of Warner Bros. LPs" looks unequivocal to me, & none of those titles fit the bill. I suppose the third title could be "Gremlins", it would be a big (& fast) seller, & I'm sure Lukas could do with that.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

With Shuken & Hayes I think of Elmer Bernstein, & then there's Alfred Newman & Quincy Jones, but it's tying them up with a Warner soundtrack release. I dunno.

Marvin Hamlisch and Michael Small don't have Warner LPs either, drat!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   robby   (Member)

Perhaps Elmer's The Miracle, the 1959 Carroll Baker/Roger Moore flick, for one of the titles?

There's also Elmer's 1968 I Love You, Alice B. Toklas! to consider.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Perhaps Elmer's The Miracle, the 1959 Carroll Baker/Roger Moore flick, for one of the titles?

There's also Elmer's 1968 I Love You, Alice B. Toklas! to consider.


They are both Warners films. But one was released only as a rerecording on Elmer's label and the other only as a bootleg.
We need an LP on the Warners label.

I noticed PENNIES FROM HEAVEN was released on a Warners LP. Anybody know if they had anything to do with that?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   robby   (Member)

My bad.

Was there ever a Warner lp for Sergeant Rutledge, music by Howard Jackson?

And what about Joe vs the Volcano for the "hot" one?

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

Leo Shuken and Jack Hayes seem to be closest associated with Elmer Bernstein...
As so many astute collectors have pointed out.

So what could the two Bernstein titles be?
CAHILL: US MARSHALL (1973)
I LOVE YOU, ALICE B. TOKLAS (1969)
RAMPAGE (1963)

As for sexy in the summer...
I'd love some "hot water" from Goldsmith's OUTLAND big grin

Oh,
and on a separate post someone has mentioned...
GREYSTOKE: THE LEGEND OF TARZAN - John Scott
That is some long overdue sexy! wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)


Actually, I was surprised that TZ:TM wasn't an Amblin production.
I wonder if the accident and the lawsuits caused Spielberg to withdraw Amblin's "official" involvement.


Probably not,
I think because TWILIGHT ZONE was already a well established and respected property from the 1950s,
there would have been a larger company
(at the time)
acting as executive producer.

Also,
AMBLIN,
at that time,
was merely 2 years old with Speilberg,
a smoldering hot director,
just completing ET and POLTERGEIST in 1982.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Chris in PA   (Member)

Probably not,
I think because TWILIGHT ZONE was already a well established and respected property from the 1950s,
there would have been a larger company
(at the time)
acting as executive producer.

Also,
AMBLIN,
at that time,
was merely 2 years old with Speilberg,
a smoldering hot director,
just completing ET and POLTERGEIST in 1982.


D'oh!

I should have double checked dates - that's what I get for relying on my memory.

(Has it really been 26 years since the release of TZ:TM??!!)

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

How rude!

I'm sorry if my comment was perceived as such, but I'm just sick and tired of these five-page topics buzzing for months ahead of time, only to be followed by another five pages' worth of bitching that the latest Intrada/Varsese title isn't Back To The Future/Spartacus/Familt Plot. That's what I like about FSM...they just release the damn things. If everyone else gets something about the endless speculation about upcoming titles, fine (I like it too, at times), but I've just had my fill of it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Not Body Heat. Didn't mean sexy literally.
lk


Speaking of Barry, it could be of course THE DEEP.

Or THE BLACK HOLE


A deep, sexy black hole...? eek

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

RAMPAGE by Elmer Bernstein would be great. Haven't heard that score in decades.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Not Body Heat. Didn't mean sexy literally.
lk


Well we do, and there is nothing sexier than Jacqelin Bisset in "The Deep".

I think Ford may have mention that another label was doing The Deep in the Prometheus thread.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

I think we should pick a bar for the night and all go out and have some cocktails that would be cool as hell!

Sounds like a plan. Meeting with some new like-minded friends with adult beverages as a social lubricant works for me!

I'm going to need a couple of rides though...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   crogrr   (Member)

Too bad one of them is not indeed Camelot. People think - "oh, a Musical". Not entirely. Indeed a flawed film. But - It is one of the most exquisite of Alfred Newman's "musical" scorings - so much wonderful underscore. I am currently watching my great LD of the Roadshow version (great dynamic sound - I've heard it is so much better than the DVD). Cinematography - Richard Kline, Scenic/Costume Design - John Truscott. And, of course, Alfred Newman/Ken Darby - and Orchestrations from Shuken/Hayes/King. The last 10+ minutes of Act 1 are....Newman. Sublime - it deserves a full 2 CD presentation before I leave....

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 10:58 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm sorry if my comment was perceived as such, but I'm just sick and tired of these five-page topics buzzing for months ahead of time, only to be followed by another five pages' worth of bitching that the latest Intrada/Varsese title isn't Back To The Future/Spartacus/Familt Plot.

Reasonable. I actually don't mind it, but I can see that it could be tiresome.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 11:04 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

My own take: Any CD Lukas feels is worth paying to go over the 3,000 copy limit has to have a fan following outside our usual gang. "Superman" had that -- fans of the character pushed that into its second pressing, not our measly group. Whatever it is, I think it's got to have that crossover appeal -- it's from not just a popular movie, but a franchise with a following. Probably a popular composer in these circles, but also a score to a movie that would attract buyers who couldn't name the composer.

All that said, I don't have a freaking clue what it is outside the abstract.

But my bet is that the word "hot" was not a clue so much as a word used to express hotness.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2009 - 11:07 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

Maybe we're finally getting THE GOONIES?

big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2009 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Too bad one of them is not indeed Camelot. People think - "oh, a Musical". Not entirely. Indeed a flawed film. But - It is one of the most exquisite of Alfred Newman's "musical" scorings - so much wonderful underscore. I am currently watching my great LD of the Roadshow version (great dynamic sound - I've heard it is so much better than the DVD). Cinematography - Richard Kline, Scenic/Costume Design - John Truscott. And, of course, Alfred Newman/Ken Darby - and Orchestrations from Shuken/Hayes/King. The last 10+ minutes of Act 1 are....Newman. Sublime - it deserves a full 2 CD presentation before I leave....

You are right about the sound. It depends on which Laserdisc you have.
Here is the history. ;70mm prints had six track but the original master track for Camelot isfourtrack. the six track was a blow up.
The ONLY correct soundtrack for camelot was on the old pan and scan laserdisc. The widescreen laserdisc is from an early six track - a temp track for test screenings and has MANY mistakes.

Worse,some idiot at Warners thought camelot needed restoration (why?) so he had the entire film REMIXED from scratch, even thought he knew that Warners no longer had all of the original material !!! IT is a 1990s remix heard on the dvd and this has NEVER been fixed, even though Warner home vid is well aware abut the situation.

 
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