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 Posted:   Sep 20, 2012 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Also, while this was answered earlier, no, we're not including the terrible "City on the Edge of Forever" replacement music! Hearing that once was enough...

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2012 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Thank you, Mr. Bond.

Actually, having the titles without Shatner's VO was what I hoped for. smile

Great in the episode, but we are, of course, all about the great music. smile

Problem is, I now want it to be late November, with the 15 CDs on my desk, and the music playing.

I know, Star Trek and Soundtrack fans/collectors are a picky, pushy, impatient form of obsessive-compulsive life. wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2012 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Also, while this was answered earlier, no, we're not including the terrible "City on the Edge of Forever" replacement music! Hearing that once was enough...

I don't know if I posted this before, but the replacement music was actually by...J. Peter Robinson!

Lukas

p.s. oh it seems I did! sorry

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Mr. Flint   (Member)

... And in regards to library cues in general, while in Star Trek's case they often were rerecordings of cues from the previous seasons, there were also variations of cues from the same season (often but not always done during the recording sessions for the episodes the original cues were written for) as well as wholly original music written for a general purpose--a great example is all the cues Alexander Courage did for season two--generic action, dramatic cues, stings and play-offs, none written to specific sequences, but intended to be tracked and edited into episodes that needed music that season. That's the most fascinating stuff to me because how do you write a piece of dramatic music for a scene that doesn't exist? Then to see how effectively those cues actually DO work in the episodes is pretty exciting.


That's exactly the way Pete Rugolo was approaching his work for "The Fugitive", except that he wrote those generic cues even before the series had started! I'm looking forward to hear those Courage library cues, sounds exciting!

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   Mr. Flint   (Member)


Are your questions rhetorical because I don't think anyone here is capable of answering them... LLL is producing a soundtrack set, not a DVD set.


Really? I didn't notice... wink

Of course I didn't expect a definite answer here to my questions (which weren't directed necessarily at LLL), I was looking more for suggestions and speculations (provided in the meantime, at least partial, by SchiffyM and OneBuckFilms - thanks for your informative input!). Besides, the soundtrack also is part of the DVD releases, and when producing this definite TOS score collection, you have to see the whole picture, including the history of the presentation of the show (original broadcast, syndication, VHS/DVD/LD/Remastered/BluRay releases).

Now I rest my case... smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)



While I do hope to get one of the Star Trek CD sets, I am anxious for this project to get done, so that all involved will hopefully move on to. . . . The Six Million Dollar Man soundtrack or soundtracks. Foolish or not, that is where my heart lies.

JThree

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)



While I do hope to get one of the Star Trek CD sets, I am anxious for this project to get done, so that all involved will hopefully move on to. . . . The Six Million Dollar Man soundtrack or soundtracks. Foolish or not, that is where my heart lies.

JThree

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

There's no reason the studio would have lost the rights to any of the other recorded music for Trek, so it must have been an issue of not having the original music element or maybe not having the time to track it down.

I would also suggest the possibility that it was simple human error.


This is my thought as well. The simplest explanation is probably the correct one. It was fixed as soon as the season sets came out, as was the missing scene from The Tholian Web. Somebody oopsed. Lots of oopses on the Blu-Rays too that I hope will be corrected for future re-releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

While I do hope to get one of the Star Trek CD sets, I am anxious for this project to get done, so that all involved will hopefully move on to. . . . The Six Million Dollar Man soundtrack or soundtracks. Foolish or not, that is where my heart lies.

JThree


After "Star Trek", they will release the complete scores for "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" which have connections with "Star Trek".

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

No, Shatner's narration isn't included

No Shatner, no sale! JK! Though weird as Nimoy's voice over was included on the remastered WOK.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)


After "Star Trek", they will release the complete scores for "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" which have connections with "Star Trek".


I would be SO okay with that.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Judging by the buzz this set is getting here, I have a feeling that 6,000 units may be insufficient.

I'm still impressed that with this set, and the movie score releases, we are getting everything there is from Star Trek.

What was, a few years back, a set of holy grails, is now out, or expected to be out soon.

There is a LOT of fantastic music being given the presentation, preservation and love it deserves, and it makes me smile every time I look at my CD shelf, or play one of my CDs.

To borrow from another musically rich property:

This .... this IS history.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   JimZipCode   (Member)

There was a statement made earlier too that someone wished we'd have left off all the unused music from the set. Okayyyyy – so you don't want more music from "Amok Time"?

Um, yes please! I want more of Fried's music from Amok Time! Me me me!

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

There was a statement made earlier too that someone wished we'd have left off all the unused music from the set. Okayyyyy – so you don't want more music from "Amok Time"?

Um, yes please! I want more of Fried's music from Amok Time! Me me me!


Please sir, can I have some .... more? big grin

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

No Shatner, no sale! JK! Though weird as Nimoy's voice over was included on the remastered WOK.

And here I was hoping that they would include end titles of TWOK on this set without the voice over as a bonus. (Ha! Sorry, Lukas.)

This .... this IS history.

Ok, fine. I won't blow up the TOS set with my rocket launcher. But don't blame me when it makes your head explode (or your face melt).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Who has watched the black and white pilot of "Star Trek"?
Was it better?

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Who has watched the black and white pilot of "Star Trek"?
Was it better?



I'm not sure there's any reason to watch it in black and white.

It was only released that way because the color negative had not yet been located in the Paramount vaults. The footage alternates between a scratchy black and white workprint and the color film used in the two-part "Menagerie" episode. It's just a novelty now, I guess. On my DVD set it includes introductory remarks by Roddenberry, but that's pretty much the only reason to watch it, as far as I know.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

No, Shatner's narration isn't included (listen to the episodes for that!).

Awwww, mannnn... so close. razz

(Oh, c'mon, you knew someone would gripe about something! I know, I know...)

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Who has watched the black and white pilot of "Star Trek"?
Was it better?


Pretty much what the restored color print was, but in B & W.

Nothing to see there, I'm afraid ...

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2012 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

No, Shatner's narration isn't included (listen to the episodes for that!).

Awwww, mannnn... so close. razz

(Oh, c'mon, you knew someone would gripe about something! I know, I know...)


And .... scene. smile

This board is so predictable... wink

 
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