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 Posted:   Feb 3, 2012 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Yes, sure a lot of people know each other, but Beat normally has very little to do with Sugar/CAM. It's quite simply not their territory. Only Digit and GDM do regularly work with Sugar and license the CAM scores from them.
Also keep in mind that also Quartet, Kronos and Saimel probably won't be able to release those CAM scores - at least at the moment. They have licensed their Italian titles mainly from GDM and from Cinevox, but not from CAM. Therefore you have to write to Digitmovies.
Which other Italian soundtracks did you ask for? If you write down the titles, I can probably tell you who owns the rights and which label could release them.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2012 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   morrifan   (Member)

Which other Italian soundtracks did you ask for? If you write down the titles, I can probably tell you who owns the rights and which label could release them.

as far as I'm concerned, top of my wish-list features mostly Morricone CAM stuff
early scores like "la Voglia Matta" (my n°1 wish), "La Cuccagna", and possibly "I Malamondo" (I habe the latest Japanese release - is there way for an expanded edition?), as well as later scores like Cage Aux Folles, Il Bandito Dagli Occhi Azzurri or L'Immoralità
I guess it's either Hillside or Digitmovies territory? I wish for the latter because they're much more affordable.
It's been ages since Digitmovies last produced a Morricone

Also, some Cinevox like Fatti Di Gente Perbene or l'Assoluto Naturale --> could be coming from Quartet, Saimel or Digitmovies?

I also hope for more reissues of scores previously released by RCA / Dagored but I think that GDM handles it well, so I worry less for the release of RCA stuff that I do for CAM, for instance.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2012 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

as far as I'm concerned, top of my wish-list features mostly Morricone CAM stuff
early scores like "la Voglia Matta" (my n°1 wish), "La Cuccagna", and possibly "I Malamondo" (I habe the latest Japanese release - is there way for an expanded edition?), as well as later scores like Cage Aux Folles, Il Bandito Dagli Occhi Azzurri or L'Immoralità
I guess it's either Hillside or Digitmovies territory? I wish for the latter because they're much more affordable.
It's been ages since Digitmovies last produced a Morricone


Don't worry about Digitmovies not doing Morricone anymore. Wait for next month's series.

You are wrong about LA CUCCAGNA: That's no CAM title and never was. There was a 45rpm single on the RCA label in 1962 with two tracks, but the score itself is owned by Nazionalmusic so that chances for still existing tapes nowadays are not that high.
Your other mentioned titles are indeed all CAM territory. So either something for GDM/Hillside or Digitmovies.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2012 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   morrifan   (Member)

Don't worry about Digitmovies not doing Morricone anymore. Wait for next month's series.

ha! you made my day Stefan


You are wrong about LA CUCCAGNA: That's no CAM title and never was. There was a 45rpm single on the RCA label in 1962 with two tracks, but the score itself is owned by Nazionalmusic so that chances for still existing tapes nowadays are not that high.

my bad. Thanks for the correction. I closely associate all those early Morricone entries. They may not be "typical" Morricone, but they sound wonderful to me. "Sole E Sogni" from "La Voglia Matta", short as it is, is one of my favourite movie music track ever.


back to Piero now: just listened to CD2 of Quartet's "Quelle Strane Occasioni". Kudos to Quartet for this release, they couldn't have sequenced the tracks better IMHO.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2012 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)

back to Piero now: just listened to CD2 of Quartet's "Quelle Strane Occasioni". Kudos to Quartet for this release, they couldn't have sequenced the tracks better IMHO.

I agree morrifan, the 2nd cd really makes the soundtrack for me.
I wasn't a big fan of the score before the Quartet release, but the extra material won me over.


Stefan, I think you've already matched the scores on my wish list with the labels that own the rights to them:

Tre Fratelli
Cristo si e fermato a eboli
Le Altre
Swept Away-expanded

How do you seem to know about Digitmovies upcoming releases? Apart from the upcoming ones announced on their website, what information do you have concerning releases beyond that, hm? smile Do tell!

I see Claudio Fuiano around on Facebook, on the various soundtrack pages. He usually leaves supportive comments on the various releases, regardless of which label is putting them out. I've often thought of sending him a message regarding my wish list. He seems quite approachable, I might just start pestering him with a few titles...!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2012 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

As to your questions, Bewlay:

The rights for TRE FRATELLI and TRAVOLTI DA UN INSOLITO DESTINO (SWEPT AWAY) belong to Revelation Music which is a company very much related to GDM. So these could be titles licensed either to Quartet Records or to Saimel, but I don't think that GDM itself plans to release them on CD. So maybe an expanded version of TRAVOLTI will be one of Quartet's 2012 Piccioni titles? In my opinion it would be possible and why not? And maybe Quartet or Saimel should also take care of TRE FRATELLI.

Well, Claudio Fuiano is a good friend of mine for a long time and of course you can contact him.
I do not have all infos about upcoming Digit releases, but at least I can tell you that also a Peplum title will be in the next batch and that the Peplum series will continue in 2012 with some great titles. I am really not allowed to tell them here, but as a few people did worry the series may not continue on Digit, I can assure all of them that it will.smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2012 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

"More Than A Miracle"....absolutely glorious score.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2012 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Well spotted bewlay have owned the DVD of Swept Away for a few years before I managed to track down a copy of the score own the same version as you. It has been years since I watched the film last do remember thinking that I could not remember some of it from the film but thought that I'd simply been caught up to much in the story of the film or something will have to watch it again to check out the score difference.
Do think that what is on the cd is exceptional the tracks on their own are very good but when listened to as a whole it is sublime.


 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2012 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Great info Stefan one score I'd love to get the original film tracks to is
De Masi's Un Solo Grande Amore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHt3qctHtyU
What is on the Saimel cd appears to be what was also on the original LP which is still nice but nothing like what is heard in the film tracks.
Still think that the Saimel cd is worth getting for the other score on the disc also by De Masi
Di Che Colore E Il Vento which is a beautiful score.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2012 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)


Do think that what is on the cd is exceptional the tracks on their own are very good but when listened to as a whole it is sublime.


Oh I think what's on the cd is exceptional too, don't get me wrong. An expanded version would
set things straight though with regards to completing the soundtrack in full.

Concerning the new Piccioni cd coming out this month on Beat Records, Rag. Arturo De Fanti bancario precario - Riavanti Marsch! - does anyone know what they sound like? What other Piccioni scores are they closest to in style? I'm guessing by the year of release of both scores, '79-'80, they'd probably sound similar to something like Io so che tu sai che io so?

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2012 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Riavanti... marsch! (1979)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljvZVSKZfjc

Rag. Arturo De Fanti bancario precario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvK0MYjTl9U

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2012 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)

Riavanti... marsch! (1979)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljvZVSKZfjc

Rag. Arturo De Fanti bancario precario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvK0MYjTl9U


Thanks wayoutwest, I've gone through them quickly.... Riavanti...marsch! seems to have some nice tracks here & there throughout the film, which seem to be variations on one particular piece. By the sounds of it, the two films are closer to Io E Caterina, with a mixture of styles within each score.....

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2012 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

There might be some good tracks on there have not watched them all the way through myself.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2012 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   Ken G   (Member)

Listening to this one for the first time right now - arrived yesterday:


[Verita Note]

The second track, "Lounge Tribale", from L'ALBA DELL'UOMO blew my mind out!

Here it is:


"Lounge Tribale 2" now playing - wow again! (also on youtube)

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2012 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)


[Verita Note]


Glad you are enjoying this album, also, Ken G.

I had gotten this last year, and it's better than average mid-'70s Piccioni (for TV).
Rather cumbersome to recommend, though, because it contains 4 separate series which most of us will never have heard of, much less actually watch (if they are even on home video...).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2012 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   Ken G   (Member)

A few weeks ago I took advantage of the very generous FSM/SAE offer and got "More Than a Miracle" / "Kenner" for free:



I've been listening regularly since then and it really is something very special. Don't know if that offer is still on or not, but either way, this is terrific music and is vigorously recommended!

That's all!

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2012 - 1:11 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Hi, Ken G.

Would "Smoke Over London" and "More Than A Miracle" be the earliest Piccioni soundtracks in your collection now?

Did you ever get a chance to get an early Piero from between 1960 through '63?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2012 - 1:27 AM   
 By:   Ken G   (Member)

Hi, Ken G.

Would "Smoke Over London" and "More Than A Miracle" be the earliest Piccioni soundtracks in your collection now?

Did you ever get a chance to get an early Piero from between 1960 through '63?


Hi ToneRow,

re. my earliest ones: I guess that's right - together with "Scusi, lei è favorevole o contrario?" (1966).
Didn't get round to those earlier ones yet - but I will! And I'll report back on this very thread!

Actually, I need to go back over this thread to check a few things - I have my eye on this one too:



Don't know if it was mentioned or not...

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2012 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

I don't think that MMM83 was mentioned ... certainly not by me since I don't own it.

When I listened to the sound samples of MMM83 on the SAE site, it didn't interest me enough so I passed over that title.

If MMM83 appeals to you, let us know how it sounds later on in this thread. Maybe you could compare it with other Piccioni titles...

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2012 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Guys I own both versions of MMM 83 I was really disappointed at the Verita Note disc on first few listens it did get better but have never really warmed to it. There is nothing wrong with the music I just feel it needs a rearrangement of the tracks or some kind of editing to get the best out of it. The music ranges from crime jazz to a sort of a slower pace of his later Lounge style there is also some interesting suspense type tracks.

The earlier Tsunami cd is much better mainly because it has Agente 077 Dall'Oriente Con Furore which is a much more enjoyable listen as a whole 23 tracks on the cd the last seven tracks are from MMM 83.

 
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