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 Posted:   Dec 13, 2012 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

No, dont recall much if anything of the film other than Volonte in it. I do remember that slightly discordant fading in and out of the crazy strings (something of a Morricone steal but a good one) - I do remember- as I did on many occasion - wondering whether it was worth recording the rest of the music, but that typical piccioni beat made me leave the tape running. Was glad I did as it was a slow burner.

Not up to Puppet on a chain level but good.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2012 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Thanks for that Bill Puppet on a Chain would be another one of those scores I would buy an expansion off have not listened to that one for awhile must dig it out again.

After I mentioned Swept Away... By An Unusual Destiny In The Blue Sea Of August I had to listen to it again the music floats around before it slowly melts it does not take too much for me to imagine that I'm floating somewhere on an ocean. The music and the vocals seem to drift past and all around you like a gentle breeze and the horizon is some way off in the distance. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2012 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)

After I mentioned Swept Away... By An Unusual Destiny In The Blue Sea Of August I had to listen to it again the music floats around before it slowly melts it does not take too much for me to imagine that I'm floating somewhere on an ocean. The music and the vocals seem to drift past and all around you like a gentle breeze and the horizon is some way off in the distance. wink


Very true, wayoutwest! When I listen to Swept Away, I think 'Mediterranean'.
It so closely matches the film in tone & feel, I'm hard pressed to think of a similarly effective soundtrack in that style, either in Piccioni's body of work or of another composer. It's a majestic score...

Regarding the expanded version of Swept Away released earlier this year...as great as it is, it is still somewhat incomplete. Beat Records have done a great job with this expanded version, so it feels somewhat cruel to point this out. However, the only reason I even noticed is because the 2 tracks I was looking most forward to hearing on the cd aren't there. After having seen the film several times over the years & picked up on those cues quite often - I immediately noticed their absence on the cd.

1- opening title track used over the intro in the film is not on the CD. There are two versions of it on the CD, I think they are tracks #1 & 11 - neither of these versions are heard in the film (at least to my ears). They are close, but the mix is quite different in places in the film version.

2- track #4 on the CD, 'Significa amore', is not the version used in the film. This piece plays shortly after the arrival of Gennarino & Raffaella on the island, as she is sitting near a creek, washing Gennarino's clothing. The version in the film is much slower & leisurely in its pacing.

However, regarding point #2......I did a bit of looking around, & I found a score that Piccioni did for a television documentary, called L'Italia Vista Dal Cielo. (It's available on Itunes) Track #11 from that score is the very same version used in Swept Away. Judging from other italian films of the period, they used to 'borrow' pieces of music from one film & use them in others.
So for some reason, they took a track from Italia Vista Dal Cielo, used it in Swept Away, but created another version for the soundtrack album, which is never actually heard in the film. Weird...

Before I drive everyone crazy with this, there is one other track I was always curious about in the film. It plays on a radio in the background, toward the very end of the film, as the two main character speak over the telephone for the last time. It's not by Piccioni, but by an artist called Sandro Giacobbe. The song is Signora Mia. It's of the period, but it recalls the film for me in the same way as Piccioni's score does.


So I hope this all doesn't sound like sour grapes, picking over a few excluded tracks. Beat has done a fantastic job on the soundtrack, it's probably the most complete version we could ever hope to have. But damned if that version of the opening title track is still out there somewhere on an undiscovered master tape..!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2012 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Up to 1975...

Not yet released (tapes likely exist):
1958 Racconti d'Estate
1959 I Magliari
1961 L'Assassino
1961 La viaccia
1962 L'Attico
1962 Anima Nera
1962 Il Demonio
1962 Il Mafioso
1965 Io la Conoscevo Bene
1968 Niente rose per OSS 117
1969 Addio, Alexandra
1969 Toh, è Morta la Nonna!
1969 Le Altre
1969 Giovinezza, Giovinezza
1971 Stress
1975 Fratello Mare

LPs not yet released on CD:
1959 Il Mondo Di Notte
1960 Il Gobbo
1961 Il Mondo di Notte Numero 2
1962 Il Diavolo
1964 Tre per una rapina
1964 La Corde au Cou
1964 I Tre Volti
1970 Le Coppie
1972 Lo Scopone scientifico
1972 Le Sorelle Materassi

Could be expanded:
1961 Romolo e Remo [CAM, 1995, 31 min.]
1962 Senilità [CAM, 1992, 31 min.]
1962 La Commare Secca [CAM, 1993, 42 min.]
1962 La Città Prigioniera [CAM, 1993, 34 min.]
1962 Una Vita Violenta [CAM, 1992, 41 min.]
1963 Un Tentativo Sentimentale [CAM, 1991, 40 min.]
1964 Tre Notti d'Amore [CAM, 1993, 22 min.]
1964 La Fuga [CAM, 1993, 31 min.]
1964 La Vita Agra [CAM, 1993, 36 min.]
1965 il momento della verità [CAM, 1991, 38 min.]
1965 agente 077 dall'oriente con furore [Tsunami, 1998, 39 min.]
1970 Uomini Contro [Point, 1995, 37 min.]
1971 ...Dopo di Che, Uccide Il Maschio e lo Divora [Screentrax, 2001, 30 min.]
1971 Due Maschi per Alexa [Screentrax, 2001, 15 min.]
1972 L'Italia Vista del Cielo [Verita Note, 2009, 19 min.]
1972 Una Tomba Aperta, Una Tomba Vuota [Beat, 1995, 21 min.]
1974 Lucky Luciano [Soundtrack Listeners, 1995, 31 min.]

May be expanded(?):
1971 Puppet on a Chain [Point, 2001, 32 min.]
1974 Il Bacio [Beat, 1995, 49 min.]

Could benefit from a new release, and perhaps some additonal tracks(?)
La Decima Vittima, Fumo di Londra, Scusi, Lei è Favorevole o Contrario?, Camille 2000, Colpo Rovente, Inghilterra Nuda, Contestazione Generale, Il Dio Sotto la Pelle

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)


Not yet released (tapes likely exist):
1958 Racconti d'Estate
1959 I Magliari
1961 L'Assassino
1961 La viaccia
1962 L'Attico
1962 Anima Nera
1962 Il Demonio
1962 Il Mafioso
1965 Io la Conoscevo Bene
1968 Niente rose per OSS 117
1969 Addio, Alexandra
1969 Toh, è Morta la Nonna!
1969 Le Altre
1969 Giovinezza, Giovinezza
1971 Stress
1975 Fratello Mare


Hi, slint.

Thanks for the information very much!

I'm fascinated by this data; would this list perhaps be in the chronological order in which the music was recorded?

This is curious because MAFIOSO was released in October of 1962, yet IL DEMONIO (which wasn't shown until 1963) is shown above being before MAFIOSO.
This implies to me that Piero Piccioni may have written and recorded IL DEMONIO in the middle of '62 and that the picture's distribution was delayed for over 6 months (maybe more?).

Anyway, nice of you to provide this for us here.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2013 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Ken G   (Member)

Swept Away is just sublime can't imagine anyone not enjoying that one hope you like it Ken it is up there amongst some of my favorite expansions yet like Sacco Alla Regina or La Volpe Dalla Coda Di Velluto.

All the bonus tracks are worth having their all fantastic reading the back of inlay on this latest disc I noticed that it was conducted by Berto Pisano never knew this before what a dream combination it turned out to be with Nora Orlandi doing the vocals on some of the tracks.


It eventually showed up a week or so ago and I've been enjoying it immensely!

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2013 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Good detective work on spotting differences on Swept Away bewlay I remember reading something that Claudio had written on Facebook about looking for an original track out of 96 takes or something for a score he was working on at the time.

Maybe it is quite normal for there to be a good many takes but it must have been unusual even for Claudio to come across so many for whatever he was working on that occasion.

Great list Slint would love to see some of those released wonder what we will get this year.

Glad you are enjoying Swept away Ken my mind is almost enveloped by thoughts of the mysterious lure that La Fuga has had on me since I listened to it back in December anytime I have thought about Piccioni since I keep coming back to this disc the other score on it La Vita Agra is very good as well.

Some labels have mentioned that they had a Piccioni in the pipeline
Beat,Kronos

It is almost the end of January and still no new Piccioni only eleven months to Xmas ma ma wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2013 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

The latest "mystery cover" on Beat Records' facebook page should make Piccioni fans very happy.

https://www.facebook.com/BeatRecordsCompany

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2013 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Indeed!

I wonder why I MAGLIARI hasn't been released sooner, though.

It ticks many of Piccioni's fans' boxes:

  • directed by Francesco Rosi (check)
  • starring Alberto Sordi (check)
  • voluptuous starlet (check, check!) ... in this case Belinda Lee

    Also, I think this is the first time a 1959 Piccioni title arrives onto CD.
    I MAGLIARI will come in between THE TEMPEST (1958) and IL BELL'ANTONIO (1960) in the Piccioni chronology. smile

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     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 11:24 AM   
     By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

    I was sent this fine clip wink

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 12:16 PM   
     By:   bewlay   (Member)

    I was sent this fine clip wink



    Fantastic news..!

    There's two more Rosi-Piccioni scores left that I'd love to have, Tre Fratelli & Cristo Si E' Fermato A Eboli - I hope we will see them this year!

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:05 PM   
     By:   John Smith   (Member)

    I’m about to order a few Piccioni CDs and one of the scores I’m interested in acquiring is STORIA DI UNA MONACA DI CLASURA. I listened to the SAE samples from the longer Avanz CD and adore them. The Digitmovies release has only ten tracks from the film, but it also includes the score from LE MONACHE DI SANT'ARCANGELO, which makes this CD a more tempting prospect. However, my purchase of the two-fer is contingent upon its containing all the sampled Avanz tracks. I’d like to know how many of these tracks (if any) are actually included on the Digitmovies CD.

    Cheers!

     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:50 PM   
     By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

    Having a quick listen to those samples would say that 17 and 11 are the same and 5 and 3 are different versions.
    I consider both cds must haves you could always get the Digit cd first and if your just looking for a few more Nuns you really can't go wrong with this double bill either very similar in style.

    Flavia La Monaca Musulmania - Nicolai Piovani
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Flavia+La+Monaca+Musulmania+-+Nicolai+Piovani&oq=Flavia+La+Monaca+Musulmania+-+Nicolai+Piovani&gs_l=youtube.12...2247302.2248724.0.2249846.1.1.0.0.0.0.206.206.2-1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1j2.cnn3EruqAys

    Scipione Detto Anche L'africano - Severino Gazzelloni

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:56 PM   
     By:   Ken G   (Member)

    I’m about to order a few Piccioni CDs and one of the scores I’m interested in acquiring is STORIA DI UNA MONACA DI CLASURA. I listened to the SAE samples from the longer Avanz CD and adore them. The Digitmovies release has only ten tracks from the film, but it also includes the score from LE MONACHE DI SANT'ARCANGELO, which makes this CD a more tempting prospect. However, my purchase of the two-fer is contingent upon its containing all the sampled Avanz tracks. I’d like to know how many of these tracks (if any) are actually included on the Digitmovies CD.

    Cheers!


    Avanz CD tracklisting:

    1. Pastorale Beat - ouverture (05:32)
    2. Main titles (01:40)
    3. Aria Lenta (02:15)
    4. Lente doloroso (03:08)
    5. Andantino leggero (02:13)
    6. Minaccioso drammatico (01:39)
    7. Aria moderata (01:59)
    8. Moderato classico (02:30)
    9. Andantino leggero 2 (02:13)
    10. Moderato malinconico (02:25)
    11. Minuetto (02:10)
    12. Andantino Malinconico (02:01)
    13. Andantino Leggero 3 (02:46)
    14. Misterioso triste (01:53)
    15. Fiat Misericordia - Voices (02:37)
    solo voices by Edda Dell'Orso and Christy Spagnulo
    16. Misterioso Astratto (02:35)
    17. Aria Classica part 1 (03:16)
    18. Aria Classica part 2 (04:57)
    19. Aria Classica part 3 (04:04)
    20. Aria Classica part 4 (01:45)
    21. Aria Classica part 5 (01:09)
    22. Pastorale Beat (02:10)
    23. Finale (03:18)


    The 10 songs from Digitmovies twofer:

    18. Main Titles (01:38)
    19. Pop Liturgical (02:45)
    20. The Devil's Tail (02:25)
    21. Main Theme Reprise (01:53)
    22. Funny Minuet (02:09)
    23. Main Theme Reprise II (01:25)
    24. Fiat Misericordia (02:37)
    25. Main Theme Reprise III (01:06)
    26. Pop Liturgical II (02:12)
    27. Finale (03:18)

     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 5:34 PM   
     By:   ToneRow   (Member)

    Here's my input on this:

    SAE sample tracks
    3. Aria Lenta (02:15) [corresponds to Digitmovies CD Main Titles (01:38), 18]
    5. Andantino leggero (02:13) [corresponds to Dm's Pop Liturgical (02:45), 19]
    11. Minuetto (02:10) [Dm's Funny Minuet (02:09), 22]
    17. Aria Classica part 1 (03:16) [Dm's Finale (03:18), 27]

    I think wayoutwest is right, though, about some of the versions being slightly different recording takes. However, those 4 pieces you hear on those samples @ SAE are represented (by one take or another) on the Digitmovies CD.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 6:53 PM   
     By:   John Smith   (Member)

    Thanks for all your help, chaps; you’ve been a great help! I spent over half an hour, in vain, trying to match up the running times and the track labels! It soon dawned on me, however, that the tracks on one of the two CDs either had been shortened or were alternative takes. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

    I think I’ll follow wayoutwest’s advice and start with the Digitmovies release.

    PS. The Piovani is a must-buy!

     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 7:02 PM   
     By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

    I was faced with the same dilemma a few years ago, John, and I opted for the Digitmovies release as well. Never regretted that.

     
     Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 7:03 PM   
     By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

    My first DP of 2013. Woo hoo!

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 15, 2013 - 7:36 AM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    Beat Records has announced now on their website an entire Piero Piccioni CD series - probably with many scores owned by Sugar/CAM - for the rest of this year.
    Great news:

    "2012 has been the year dedicated to Francesco de Masi and his wonderful scores for Western movies (coming soon the last chapter of the series!), 2013 monographic series will be dedicated to a great Maestro, unfortunately no more among us, Piero Piccioni. This series avails of choices made with great attention with the aim to compile a chronological selection that lasts more than two decades.
    The starting year is 1959, the first score chosen is among those that mostly deserved a complete release: I MAGLIARI, directed by Francesco Rosi with Renato Salvatori, Alberto Sordi, Belinda Lee. So, for this noir milestone directed by a great Italian artist finally we have the chance to homage the gorgeous relevant soundtrack done by an author who will become the most important collaborator of the director. Jazz urban sonorities, a great cover version of the popular 'Fever' and a lot of high quality music. A first meeting you can't miss with the first of a series of releases dedicated to one of the inhabitants of the Italian cinematic Olympus.

    The CD is released in jewel case, mastering by Claudio Fuiano, liner notes by Roberto Pugliese (colonnesonore.net) and graphic layout by Daniele De Gemini."

     
     Posted:   Feb 15, 2013 - 9:01 AM   
     By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

    This is fantastic news Stefan
    Wonder what gems and how many titles we will have before the end of the year.

    Beat released 5 cds by Francesco De Masi in 2011 and 5 again 2012 and Concerto Per Pistola Solista has just been released one more to go.

    One dozen Piccioni cds would be very nice big grin

     
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