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 Posted:   Jul 12, 2012 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

My kids and their friends aren't exectly whistling Media Ventures greatest hits, that's all I'm saying.


Well I don't know your friends, but my coworkers and I play the "guess the score/composer" game at work when we're bored, and I could name more than a dozen scores (including Zimmer & Co) that have come out since 1989 that my friends, coworkers and family could whistle or guess, and quite a few of those are superhero scores... Spider-Man, Hulk, X-Men: First Class, Batman Begins, Transformers, Captain America, Iron Man, Tron: Legacy, Inception, etc.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2012 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   adamtrons   (Member)

The below article just appeared online yesterday. In it Zimmer says, "I don’t feel confident at all. I never feel confident. But, a little bit of fear has gone a long way to being inspiring in the past. John Williams is the master and I am not even going to try and go in that direction. I’ll try my best not to embarrass myself and my colleagues on the film. I’m going to have a go!"

"In a funny way, it’s exactly because Superman is such an opposite character to Batman that I am welcoming the opportunity to do the music. Sometimes you just have to go to edge of the abyss and look down and have it stare back at you. See if you can handle it. I’ve started it and am in the ideas phase. I am driving people crazy with my experiments and trying to write a tune."

Hans Zimmer On Scoring Man Of Steel
'A little fear has gone a long way...'

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34556

After reading the comment "John Williams is the master and I am not even going to try and go in that direction", it sounds like he will be creating his own theme for Man of Steel. How do you guys feel about that? It's hard for me to imagine a Superman movie without the original theme, but at the same time perhaps it is time for something fresh? I suppose my opinion depends on how good Zimmer's "Man of Steel" theme is.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2012 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

Superman, like Batman is a comic book that can be reinvented in thousands of different ways, especially in film adaptations.

If Batman had films, TV shows and scores that we're dark, comical, gritty, operatic, epic and modern (not only for Zimmer, but also the animated Batman movie with rock music). Why can't be the same thing with Superman?

This is what Snyder, Nolan and Zimmer are trying to do with this reboot. A new take on the Superman comics, with a new vision, and a new kind of music.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2012 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

Good news. I think John Williams wrote the perfect music for THAT VERSION of Superman, which many - me included - seem to think of as the definitive incarnation of Superman.

Nevertheless, I think that taking music which was perfect for one version of the character and automatically transporting it to another - as 2006's SUPERMAN RETURNS did - is folly. It will just never fit.

The Chris Nolan Batman scores have really worked for me because they sort of ignored all the memorable music that had been written for the character up to that point - from Riddle to Hefti to Elfman to Walker to Goldenthal - and just wrote music that they thought worked for the character. Any new take on a well known character should have that luxury.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2012 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I'm all for a new Superman theme; I certainly wouldn't want a non-Williams composer to use the original as a crutch in any way. Just as Elfman's "Batman" theme would sound out of place, I imagine so would the use of William's "Superman" theme in the Snyder/Nolan film. We shall see...

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2012 - 6:21 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

The Comic-Con trailer for Man Of Steel has music from Zimmer's The Thin Red Line.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2012 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

http://www.myspace.com/whats-hot/2012/7/14/comic-con-2012-man-of-steel-panel-showcases-first-footage-of-our-new-superman

According to this latest article, no Williams music will be used at all.

Scroll down to paragraph 10.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2012 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

I'm gonna wait and see on this one. But the film and the people already involved (not Zimmer) aren't making me confident.

Zimmer's confirmed involvement would be enough to make me trepidacious about this film. Just not a fan. Tried many a time, but nope.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2012 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   itstownerman   (Member)

This might help you kiddies...

They are not going to use John Williams Themes!!!! IT is a new film, and they are going to treat it as that..a New Film.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-2012-man-steel-super-man-reboot-349325

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2012 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

This might help you kiddies...

They are not going to use John Williams Themes!!!! IT is a new film, and they are going to treat it as that..a New Film.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-2012-man-steel-super-man-reboot-349325


Sup Returns was trying to work within the same universe as the Reeves films. Using JW's themes made sense for that reboot. This being completely different I agree with the approach of writing something completely original. If Zimmer can write a score like he did in the early 90's it could be awesome.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 10:21 PM   
 By:   skyy38   (Member)

This can only be faced as a poor joke!

ALL of it.

Without Supermans "red undies" this movie is going to "lose its shirt" at the box office.

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

The Batmobile was more of an ATV than a car and Batman's suit was all black but The Dark Knight series did just fine.

Complaining about Superman not wearing red underwear is just like the people who complained about Idris Elba playing a Norse mythology figure in Thor.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2012 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

People are resistant to change, especially when you change more than 1 thing at a time. But the good news is that all of you who don't like it will get over it while the rest of us enjoy it. wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2012 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

The trailer showed at cinemas has music from LOTR.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2012 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

After seeing Dark Knight Rises, I have to admit I am not concerned about the story or even the film....but the music. If Zimmer's Man of Steel score is anything like Dark Knight....heavy percussion and synth with not much else...then that wouldnt be good. At the same time I have to remember that Batman is a much darker character then Superman so the dark stuff and percussion fit those films. For Superman I hope the score is positive, and cheerful, (with dark elements of course) and more importantly...a good theme or two. I hope it will be epic and grand. If it isnt, at least many of us have our FSM Superman Blue Box to keep us happy. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2012 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

The fact that they used LOTR and Thin Red Line music for the trailers shows that maybe the music will be emotional and intimate. Maybe.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2012 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   KubrickFan   (Member)

After seeing Dark Knight Rises, I have to admit I am not concerned about the story or even the film....but the music. If Zimmer's Man of Steel score is anything like Dark Knight....heavy percussion and synth with not much else...then that wouldnt be good. At the same time I have to remember that Batman is a much darker character then Superman so the dark stuff and percussion fit those films. For Superman I hope the score is positive, and cheerful, (with dark elements of course) and more importantly...a good theme or two. I hope it will be epic and grand. If it isnt, at least many of us have our FSM Superman Blue Box to keep us happy. smile

I hope it will be appropriate. If the movie isn't epic and grand, why should the music be?

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2012 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

The fact that they used LOTR and Thin Red Line music for the trailers shows that maybe the music will be emotional and intimate. Maybe.

Yes, if Zimmer channels Thin Red Line, it might work. Or if he gets Powell to help him for the action bits. Personally Powell's super hero scores far exceed Zimmer's.

Hancock still has one of the best cues written in the past decade for my money. Death and Transfiguration. Awesome.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2012 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Spideristic   (Member)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlbzhYmH4as
Man of Steel Comic Con footage

It runs about 2 mins 20 seconds. It's a much better quality video of the comic con footage than what was available previously. The music track is "Journey to the Line" from the film "The Thin Red Line", composed by Hans Zimmer.

I wish they had released this footage as part of the official teaser, would have gotten a much positive response including for the great music, which is less known and not distracting unlike the LOTR music track.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2012 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Looks like a pretty amazing film. Great trailer. I'm hooked.

 
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