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 Posted:   Apr 25, 2013 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I remember reading Doyle said his kids thought his new style - for THOR and RISE OF THE APES - was 'sick', so he's down with the kids and we all know that's all that matters these days.
I think scoring those two - and to a lesser extent BRAVE - in that style have put him on the radar more than he's ever been. As Remote Control style scores go, I think THOR and APES are two of the finest I've ever heard!

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2013 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I especially liked the track "Letting Go". However, it kind of failed to establish an exciting or memorable theme for THOR.

Funny that you mention to like the cue Letting Go, and you say that there's no memorable theme for THOR. When that cue is practically his theme being played emotionally (same at the last two minutes of The Compound).


I think we have a different definition for what a theme is as opposed to a motif. Most of what passes for themes these days are short enough that they should more accurately be called motifs. To me a theme properly developed goes on for a few bars, like say the theme for Space Brothers the anime. A good theme can be partially stated in one part and then fully stated elsewhere in the score but is still recognizable as being that theme. If such themes are written for these scores, they are not given a full statement.

Just look at the full statement of Captain America's theme in the march. I would expect to hear a full statement multiple times throughout the score with slight variations but instead Silvestri uses it more as a motif.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2013 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I especially liked the track "Letting Go". However, it kind of failed to establish an exciting or memorable theme for THOR.

Funny that you mention to like the cue Letting Go, and you say that there's no memorable theme for THOR. When that cue is practically his theme being played emotionally (same at the last two minutes of The Compound).


I think we have a different definition for what a theme is as opposed to a motif. Most of what passes for themes these days are short enough that they should more accurately be called motifs. To me a theme properly developed goes on for a few bars, like say the theme for Space Brothers the anime. A good theme can be partially stated in one part and then fully stated elsewhere in the score but is still recognizable as being that theme. If such themes are written for these scores, they are not given a full statement.

Just look at the full statement of Captain America's theme in the march. I would expect to hear a full statement multiple times throughout the score with slight variations but instead Silvestri uses it more as a motif.


This!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2013 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I agree with Sirusjr. I hear small motifs or lei-motifs in certain scores, but fully developed and extended themes are different than motifs. I'm hoping some of the scores for upcoming movies will have full themes.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

Burwell seems to have removed this from his website.

http://www.carterburwell.com/projects/Works-in-Progress.html

It used to say Thor: The Dark World here and there was a synopsis of the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   JohnF   (Member)

I hope this is a sign of Doyle's return.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

I hope this is a sign of Doyle's return.

I think the film is going the MV/RCP route.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

I was really starting to look forward to a Burwell Thor score...

Doyle is near enough finished with Jack Ryan and no longer scoring Effie so I guess his return is possible.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

Burwell seems to have removed this from his website.

http://www.carterburwell.com/projects/Works-in-Progress.html

It used to say Thor: The Dark World here and there was a synopsis of the movie.


Well, if he is indeed not scoring it anymore, than he lasted even shorter than I expected! Shame, I was really looking forward to this one.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He's also removed "August: Osage County".

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Is this guy avatar a condom?

If it is not a personal question...

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I don't know -- is Yor a guy condom avatar?


Perhaps you meant to word that differently.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

It is!

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

FYI, I checked with a REALLY WELL INFORMED SOURCE and it was confirmed

Carter is off the film.

It also appears so is the director who seems to have been asked to take a long vacation until AFTER the film opens.

I've head one replacement name being mentioned which would be a very interesting replacement and is a VERY TALENTED composer as well.

We'll see if he gets the gig..


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

Yikes...

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

Did Burwell record anything?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Yes, though I suspect right now isn't a good time to get more information.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Microceratops   (Member)


Alan Silvestri?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

FYI, I checked with a REALLY WELL INFORMED SOURCE and it was confirmed

Carter is off the film.

It also appears so is the director who seems to have been asked to take a long vacation until AFTER the film opens.

I've head one replacement name being mentioned which would be a very interesting replacement and is a VERY TALENTED composer as well.

We'll see if he gets the gig..


Ford A. Thaxton


Well, that totally blows about Burwell. Could've been a kick-ass listen.

And that news about the director...methinks this was a troubled production.

Still, I can't wait to hear who is scoring this movie.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Did Burwell record anything?

Just some demos Im told.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
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