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 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I can tell you this. Whoever sold these on eBay paid $19.98 for EVERY copy.

Unless they're on the manufacturing or warehousing end and obtaining copies illicitly?


Surely this would be noticed, no? I could see one or two copies going missing at a plant, but 10 or so? Weird...




Back in the 70s and 80s etc., many records stores would have "promo copies" of records they got for free from the record salesmen. Usually the stores only had one copy of each, and sold them for very little. They usually were stamped as "promo - not for sale", have a punched hole in them, cut corner etc. Maybe a few promo copies were on ebay? ..... Or, maybe this ebay seller will take the payment and not send the CD?

By the way, I can't find them on ebay.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Received my copy today. I am not a Goldsmith completest but I sure have wanted this title ever since seeing the movie and especially when Varese released Lonely Are The Brave about 5 years ago. Just want to say, if anyone doesn't know it already , it is a gem. I won't complain about Varese ever again.



"I won't complain about Varese ever again."

Hmmm, I'm not sure if I can make that promise Cody ...... smile



Nor can I, but then again I don't complain about Varese. Great releases! Again!

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

By the way, I can't find them on ebay.

All ten copies the seller listed yesterday came and went very fast:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-List-Of-Adrian-Messenger-OST-CD-Jerry-Goldsmith-/251465699479


I've been buying from healthydealsdaily for the past year and a half now and they've always come through with orders. Nearly all of the CDs they sell are brand new, no barcode punches or holes. Just received a package from them today, in fact - and I managed to snag Hours (Benjamin Wallfisch) for $8 and Knight and Day (John Powell) for $4 in the same order as my Adrian Messenger and Midas Box.

I later bought Monkeybone (Anne Dudley) and Shocker (William Goldstein) for $4 and $9 respectively.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


I have not read the insert yet, so I'm not sure the origin of the tapes, but the CD sounds pretty harsh and strident. I think at a lower than average sound level it may be better. It does sound significantly better at a bit lower volume,





I've just played mine. Sounds very good to me. Superb release in much richer and fuller sound than I expected. Very pleased with the music, presentation and sound. Top marks.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


This CD is great! Love it!

Is the last track by Morton Stevens?

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Just snagged this off eBay (healthydealsdaily) for $14!


This does not sound legit, I suspect the copies were stolen and people should boycott.


Support Varese, buy from them, how do you expect them to stay in business???

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 12:15 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

This CD is great! Love it!

Is the last track by Morton Stevens?

Lukas


I think we all heard the story he did the end credit over the years. This Jon Burlingame interview mentions it....

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/news_events/features/2010/082010.html

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Fantastic release!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 2:38 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

This CD is great! Love it!

Is the last track by Morton Stevens?

Lukas



Here is a interesting bit that was told to me by the late Morton Stevens before his death.

We were talking about his work on OUTLAND and he mentioned that he had jumped into help Jerry on a earlier film to write a cue because time was short and he needed a bit of help.

So according to Morton he caught the for the end of the film when Kirk Douglas dies, which we now call "Broom's Doom" using Jerry themes and of course Jerry looking at it and signing off.

He said that he loved the sound the orchestra made when you send Kirk impaled on the tractor.

He told me he could never come up again with something quite like it ever again.

It's also worthing noting that many years later when he was scoring HAWAII 5-O he did a really good episode of the series called "Over Fifty? Steal" starring Hume Cronyn.

The theme he came up with for Cronyn's character is very close to the theme for "The List of Adrian Messenger"....

I could her wrong, I haven't seen the episode in years, but that's what I recall.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Yes, great sounding release (don't know what Mr. Eastman was talking about) and wonderful to finally have this early Goldsmith classic in digital form.

And as mentioned, and yet another par for the course move by Varese, absolutely no mention or credit is given to Morton Stevens for the "Broom's Doom" cue, especially since Mr. Townson actually seems to do an atypical (for Varese) description of each cue, including the aforementioned one by Stevens.

Still, for me this really caps the release of the grails of his early years (until masters from BLACK PATCH and FACE OF A FUGITIVE someday resurface.)

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

Just snagged this off eBay (healthydealsdaily) for $14!

This does not sound legit, I suspect the copies were stolen and people should boycott.

Support Varese, buy from them, how do you expect them to stay in business???



Yes, a company that's existed since 1978 is going to "go out of business" because I found a CD cheaper elsewhere. roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

This CD is great! Love it!

Is the last track by Morton Stevens?

Lukas



Here is a interesting bit that was told to me by the late Morton Stevens before his death.

We were talking about his work on OUTLAND and he mentioned that he had jumped into help Jerry on a earlier film to write a cue because time was short and he needed a bit of help.

So according to Morton he caught the for the end of the film when Kirk Douglas dies, which we now call "Broom's Doom" using Jerry themes and of course Jerry looking at it and signing off.

He said that he loved the sound the orchestra made when you send Kirk impaled on the tractor.

He told me he could never come up again with something quite like it ever again.

It's also worthing noting that many years later when he was scoring HAWAII 5-O he did a really good episode of the series called "Over Fifty? Steal" starring Hume Cronyn.

The theme he came up with for Cronyn's character is very close to the theme for "The List of Adrian Messenger"....

I could her wrong, I haven't seen the episode in years, but that's what I recall.


Ford A. Thaxton


Thank you Ford! Yes, that cue "sounds" like Stevens now that I know to listen. I knew there was a reason we kept you around!

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

Yes, great sounding release (don't know what Mr. Eastman was talking about) and wonderful to finally have this early Goldsmith classic in digital form.

And as mentioned, and yet another par for the course move by Varese, absolutely no mention or credit is given to Morton Stevens for the "Broom's Doom" cue, especially since Mr. Townson actually seems to do an atypical (for Varese) description of each cue, including the aforementioned one by Stevens.

Still, for me this really caps the release of the grails of his early years (until masters from BLACK PATCH and FACE OF A FUGITIVE someday resurface.)


I'm still waiting for my copy, but it sucks that there is no mention of Mort Stevens in the liner notes - thanks, Varese!...:-(

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   Mezzanine   (Member)

Robert Townson is once again playing the sycophant in his liner notes - I couldn't believe how many needless exclamation marks he used!!!! wink Boo that Morton Stevens' contribution doesn't get a mention. Oh I forgot, it's because Bob Townson was too busy being a highly paid fanboy producer.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2014 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Maarten   (Member)

Robert Townson is once again playing the sycophant in his liner notes - I couldn't believe how many needless exclamation marks he used!!!! wink Boo that Morton Stevens' contribution doesn't get a mention. Oh I forgot, it's because Bob Townson was too busy being a highly paid fanboy producer.

What an arrogant reaction… just a couple of quickly typed unsubtle words and another person on this earth has been insulted for some inexplicable reasons…
Anyway, this same Mr Townson brought us some wonderful Jerry Goldsmith music I never heard before. Thanks for that Varèse!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2014 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

My two favorite early Goldsmith scores are now done. LONELY ARE THE BRAVE and THE LIST OF ADRIAN MESSENGER. As you probably all know already, Kirk Douglas was very involved in both productions.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2014 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Mr. Popular   (Member)

Robert Townson is once again playing the sycophant in his liner notes - I couldn't believe how many needless exclamation marks he used!!!! wink Boo that Morton Stevens' contribution doesn't get a mention. Oh I forgot, it's because Bob Townson was too busy being a highly paid fanboy producer..

Regardless, points to Robert for putting this out.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2014 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Robert Townson is once again playing the sycophant in his liner notes - I couldn't believe how many needless exclamation marks he used!!!! wink Boo that Morton Stevens' contribution doesn't get a mention. Oh I forgot, it's because Bob Townson was too busy being a highly paid fanboy producer.

So, let me get this straight. Robert Townson gives you the gift of this great release, and you have the bad form to piss on him? Your ingratitude is appalling.

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2014 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I think Mr. Townson did a great job and I'm proud of him for releasing this baby. I have not yet read the liner notes, but since he was close friends with Jerry I bet they are well written and informative.

Let's say thanks instead of saying something elsesmile Keep in mind everyone, ALL of these people have feelings as well. I tend to write stuff on here as if the person was in front of me. Would you really say that TO him if he was in front of you? Probably not, so maybe have that rule of thumb in the future so we can have a more happy forum on the ole FSM!

All orders HAVE been shipped by the way and I hope you all enjoy the release. If you haven't received it yet, please give us another week or so before inquiring.

smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2014 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Robert Townson is once again playing the sycophant in his liner notes - I couldn't believe how many needless exclamation marks he used!!!! wink Boo that Morton Stevens' contribution doesn't get a mention. Oh I forgot, it's because Bob Townson was too busy being a highly paid fanboy producer.

I everyone were one tenth the 'fanboy' Robert Townsend is we'd have no grails left.

Bravissimo Mr. Townsend. Thanks for nearly three decades of wonderful releases.

 
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