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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Black Sunday
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Gotta love that "Alright you primitive screwheads, buy this f--king thing now or else we go back to 3,000 and let you fight on eBay!" paragraph. Or maybe I'm the only d'bag that is reading it that way.

I don't even know where you'd begin to read all of that into what he said.


I read it that way too.

James


It is a delicate situation. It is frustrating sometimes doing what people want (making the editions in greater numbers and hence of greater availability) and being "rewarded" by collectors saying, "whew, I can buy that later"...which to me sounds like "or not at all." It is too bad because bad behavior is incentivized, in a sense. I hate it when these things sell out, I want everyone who wants a copy to be able to get one.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Gotta love that "Alright you primitive screwheads, buy this f--king thing now or else we go back to 3,000 and let you fight on eBay!" paragraph. Or maybe I'm the only d'bag that is reading it that way.

I don't even know where you'd begin to read all of that into what he said.


I read it that way too.


I'm genuinely sorry to hear that. It seems to me that Varese gets a lot of criticism around here for never showing up on these boards to explain what they're up to. Here, Lukas is absolutely candid about the realities of his business and ends it with a clearly tongue-in-cheek commercial pitch ("What are you waiting for? But it now!"). Would you rather this experiment fail and only afterwards find out "if only you'd jumped on the last one faster, we might have tried again"? It seems to me to be both a plea (if you'd negotiated for 10,000 copies of an orchestral film score, wouldn't you be nervous to see if your gamble paid off?) and fair warning.

I really don't see how this translates into "primitive screwheads" and a promise of vengeance. But I guess we're quick to find offense these days.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 12:42 AM   
 By:   Roach   (Member)

Wow!!!!! GREAT RELEASE! AND LIMITED 10,000!!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Holy crap!

Ordered! (C&C or not).


FSM has made a special Thor edition with some of the tracks scratched out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

10.000? Good, I’ll get it later .............this weekend.
Just read the news of this release but am at work so won't have the time until tomorrow to order it.
From the samples I checked, this will definitely NOT become my most favourite JW soundtrack but it's 70s JW and for a semi disaster film so I have to have it just to keep my "Towering inferno" and "Earthquake" CDs from feeling lonely.

Thanks for the release FSM team. I sure wish that other sound trekkers appreciate this one too and that you sell these ones really quickly

Grateful regards.

RKS.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I listened to the clips but they haven't won me over. And as good a sales promotion the wrath of Lukas & co is in regards to the quantity, I'm not gonna pick this up. But I'm sure it being a Williams score it will move considerable copies anyway. For some reason Williams' earlier scores fail to capture my interest, something perhaps time will improve upon.

I just wanted to chime in and say that I think January 2010 so far has been the month of FSM, releasing two unreleased scores of top composers. I can't wait to find out what more they have in store for us!

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

If Blue Max sold out 2500 in four days, with many buyers already owning a previous version, then a much-demanded, totally unreleased Williams action score should sell even better. And if there are plenty left over, they'll be steady sellers in future.

I can't believe anyone is picking fault with LK's urging to buy it as soon as possible. Other labels say the same thing but in a darker way – by shoving "1500 limited edition" on it they are basically telling you "Buy it in the next 24 hours or you can go to hell and pay three times as much for it on eBay". And that's the last we see of that title for another ten or twenty years, or maybe ever.
FSM has made sure that the new title will get to everyone who wants it, when they want it. But it's only reasonable that they should ask their core audience to get behind the product as speedily as possible. After all, it's the success of projects like this that play a big part in the funding of future ones which benefit us all.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

My order has gone in.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   Kakihara   (Member)

I have never seen this film or heard anything about the score before this thread, but all this excitement surely must mean I should not miss out.

The music, is it just suspense/actionmusic all the way, or are there some themes or melodies in there as well? Is all this excitement because it has never been released or is this really one of "Williams-70ies-greatest-must-have-scores"?

Oh f... it, it's John Williams, I'm ordering it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   12-tone   (Member)

Thank you, LUKAS!!!

This is the one I'm been dreaming of....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 2:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Holy crap!

Ordered! (C&C or not).


FSM has made a special Thor edition with some of the tracks scratched out.


Yeah, innit great?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   fommes   (Member)

Awesome! I've probably never ordered a CD so fast.

Also, a huge, huge thank you for trying to undermine the whole limited edition game. I hope FSM is rewarded big time, and I also hope other labels take note, especially Varèse.
(Though I hate to admit I've also been somewhat disappointed in Intrada of late. While their policy on The Boys from Brazil and Back to the Future was highly commendable, I have the feeling they pulled another Inchon on The Blue Max now, because that's a CD that should have stayed in print for much, much longer.)

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 3:42 AM   
 By:   MaurizioCaschetto   (Member)

One bit of trivia: Quentin Tarantino said that he was inspired by this film for the scene in KILL BILL Vol.1 where Daryl Hannah disguises as a nurse and infiltrate in the hospital to kill Uma Thurman. Here's the scene in BLACK SUNDAY:



I love how Williams scored the sequence. He keeps the tension going masterfully.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Though I hate to admit I've also been somewhat disappointed in Intrada of late. While their policy on The Boys from Brazil and Back to the Future was highly commendable, I have the feeling they pulled another Inchon on The Blue Max now, because that's a CD that should have stayed in print for much, much longer.

But The Blue Max was a very different situation than the other two scores in that it was very readily available for many years and there are plenty of people who owned either the Varese Sarabande or Sony Legacy editions of the score, many of which will now appear in the secondary market.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   cirtap   (Member)

Holy crap!

Ordered! (C&C or not).


FSM has made a special Thor edition with some of the tracks scratched out.


Yeah, innit great?




U STUPID


Gathering from all the comments, NO ONE knew that FSM and SAE was doing this. I am glad. I do appreciate all the efforts of everyone who got it right. Thanks......

innit??? NO

Is it not YES


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

U STUPID


Gathering from all the comments, NO ONE knew that FSM and SAE was doing this. I am glad. I do appreciate all the efforts of everyone who got it right. Thanks......

innit??? NO

Is it not YES


I'd like to have what cirtap is smoking, please.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

By: judy the hutt (Member)
"Now how about SPACECAMP?
I have purchased it (I actually had a copy okay it was bootleg but it was the music) but I have a legit one now. But SPACECAMP is the only one I think from the 80's not released on CD."
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SPACECAMP was released on CD. You just had to be there to buy it!
I'm sure it will be re-issued in the future though.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

Cool. I'll combine it with another CD to save on shipping.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   12-tone   (Member)

Just put my order.

FSM always sets example for record companies. Unlike intrada, which only cares how to make money.

Learn from that, intrada!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2010 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

SPACECAMP was released on CD. You just had to be there to buy it!
I'm sure it will be re-issued in the future though.


I hope so. I'll gladly throw away my CD-R of the age old Japanese disc if it gets reissued.

 
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