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 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 11:10 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

In a birthday concert for Andrew Lloyd Webber, Boyzone (back when it was intact and one of its members hadn't died yet) sang "No Matter What" from his show "Whistle Down The Wind," which would become one of the group's biggest hits. But it has only been the studio version that's been available for purchase, and while that one is beautiful, it is missing some of the nuances in the live recording, mainly from Ronan Keating. I'd like to share this with any Boyzone fans who may not have ever heard it done live.

https://soundcloud.com/ron-hardcastle/no-matter-what

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 1:39 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Yes, their version that night was very good....the song suited them well anyway but they pulled off a lovely performance for that concert.

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Mr. Greg:

Thanks! I still get a little misty-eyed when I watch it now, after losing one of them (Stephen Gateley). Kept hoping they would release the audio of the live performance, but even in compilations put together to mark Lloyd Webber's birthday, they reverted to the studio performance, which just isn't the same.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Ha, ha...not a question I'd expect to get on a film score messageboard.

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Thor:

Actually I thought I had posted this on the NON-film score discussion part, where we see stuff routnely posted about people's favorite cocktails and cars and actors and actresses and theatre experiences and sports and meals and ... and ... and ... well, I think you get the idea.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I know. It was just the 'Boyzone' thing -- I assume boyband music isn't high on many people's lists here. But kudos to you for liking them.

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

It's an interesting live version of a song from Andrew Lloyd Webber that I've never heard done as well, and I just wanted to share it, since it's probably not available anywhere else (I recorded it off the DVD).

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Ha, ha...not a question I'd expect to get on a film score messageboard.

Tell me about it, LOL...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It's an interesting live version of a song from Andrew Lloyd Webber that I've never heard done as well, and I just wanted to share it, since it's probably not available anywhere else (I recorded it off the DVD).

Well, I do like a great deal of Andrew Lloyd Webber. I just can't stand boy bands as a concept. Then again, I was never in the target audience, I guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2013 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

It's an interesting live version of a song from Andrew Lloyd Webber that I've never heard done as well, and I just wanted to share it, since it's probably not available anywhere else (I recorded it off the DVD).

Well, I do like a great deal of Andrew Lloyd Webber. I just can't stand boy bands as a concept. Then again, I was never in the target audience, I guess.



What about girl bands, eh? Equal disdain? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

There's another lovely song in that concert, "The Heart is Slow to Learn," sung by Kiri Te Kanawa, which was to be from a proposed sequel to PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. Well, the sequel was eventually produced, and bombed, but without that song. The lyrics, by Charles Hart, ended up in another song, with music by Frank Wildhorn, for a musical version of DRACULA, which also bombed. And I think Lloyd Webber's music ended up with different lyrics somewhere else, though I don't recall where.

So, the video of this concert is just about the only place where you can hear it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

There's another lovely song in that concert, "The Heart is Slow To Learn," sung by Kiri Te Kanawa, which was to be from a proposed sequel to PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. Well, the sequel was eventually produced, and bombed, but without that song. The lyrics, by Charles Hart, ended up in another song, with music by Frank Wildhorn, for a musical version of DRACULA, which also bombed. And I think Lloyd Webber's music ended up with different lyrics somewhere else, though I don't recall where.

So, the video of this concert is just about the only place where you can hear it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2013 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

John:

If I can ever remember how to record off my Sony CD recorder, I'll burn that Kiri Te Kanawa song for you onto a CD-R. After posting the closing scenes from "Heaven Can Wait" and "Body Heat," I have a few more I'd like to do, and I usually take the audio off the 2-channel audio output from the DVD or Blu-ray.

But I do need to make the point that while it wasn't at all the blockbuster of "Phantom" proportions, many of us still liked the sequel "Love Never Dies," and I bought the CD with Ramin Karimloo and Serena Boggess as well as the Blu-ray of the slightly revised Australian production. And I've always found it amusing that Lloyd Webber reached back to his little seen "The Beautiful Game" to find the central (title) song for "Love Never Dies," with "Our Kind of Love" used with new lyrics, although I've discussed that elsewhere here.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 12:35 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Today I put on my Blu-ray of the group's "BACK AGAIN … NO MATTER WHAT, LIVE 2008" concert video from when the group got back together after 9 years, and it was thrilling. The concert was recorded at a huge hall in Manchester England, and it repeatedly tugs at the heart, and I found tears filling my eyes a number of times. And the audience, probably 95% female, was in heaven. It was a special moment in time, and it was bittersweet, because not so long later, group member Stephen Gateley died.

Later I put on the Blu-ray of the movie version of Lloyd Webber's "The Phantom of the Opera," watching chunks of it, and later the Blu-ray of the live 25th anniversary performance of that show at Albert Hall.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: There's another lovely song in that concert, "The Heart is Slow to Learn," sung by Kiri Te Kanawa, which was to be from a proposed sequel to PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. Well, the sequel was eventually produced, and bombed, but without that song. The lyrics, by Charles Hart, ended up in another song, with music by Frank Wildhorn, for a musical version of DRACULA, which also bombed. And I think Lloyd Webber's music ended up with different lyrics somewhere else, though I don't recall where.

So, the video of this concert is just about the only place where you can hear it.


John: So you probably have the YouTube version of it with the KOCE logo on it.

I happen to like the rewritten version of the song, renamed "Love Never Dies" -- so that song has gone through 3 different incarnations. And still very much like the original, "Our Kind of Love" from Lloyd Webber's "The Beautiful Game," which I'll call #1 of 3.

I tried to post the YouTube video of Te Kanawa, but just couldn't get it to work here, although I very carefully followed the instructions.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Re: There's another lovely song in that concert, "The Heart is Slow to Learn," sung by Kiri Te Kanawa, which was to be from a proposed sequel to PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. Well, the sequel was eventually produced, and bombed, but without that song. The lyrics, by Charles Hart, ended up in another song, with music by Frank Wildhorn, for a musical version of DRACULA, which also bombed. And I think Lloyd Webber's music ended up with different lyrics somewhere else, though I don't recall where.

So, the video of this concert is just about the only place where you can hear it.


John: So you probably have the YouTube version of it with the KOCE logo on it.

I happen to like the rewritten version of the song, renamed "Love Never Dies" -- so that song has gone through 3 different incarnations. And still very much like the original, "Our Kind of Love" from Lloyd Webber's "The Beautiful Game," which I'll call #1 of 3.

I tried to post the YouTube video of Te Kanawa, but just couldn't get it to work here, although I very carefully followed the instructions.


...except that "Our Kind Of Love" was re-purposed from the sing "My Heart is Slow To learn"....so "My Heart...." came first, then was re-written as "Our Kind of Love", then finally ended up where it belonged but with new lyrics as "Love Never Dies". And Sierra Boggess utterly nailed it, both on the album and in the show (which I had the pleasure of seeing during it's brief run, in the revised version).

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

...except that "Our Kind Of Love" was re-purposed from the sing "My Heart is Slow To learn"....so "My Heart...." came first, then was re-written as "Our Kind of Love", then finally ended up where it belonged but with new lyrics as "Love Never Dies". And Sierra Boggess utterly nailed it, both on the album and in the show (which I had the pleasure of seeing during it's brief run, in the revised version).

That's my understanding as well. I believe Lloyd Webber has always stated that he felt 'Our Kind of Love' was out of place in 'The Beautiful Game' and regretted using that melody. He has since removed it from the revised version of that show, now known as 'The Boys In The Photograph'.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

That's my understanding as well. I believe Lloyd Webber has always stated that he felt 'Our Kind of Love' was out of place in 'The Beautiful Game' and regretted using that melody. He has since removed it from the revised version of that show, now known as 'The Boys In The Photograph'.

That's how he explains it somewhere....can't remember if it's in the Love Never Dies CD liner notes or the LND theatre programme...but it's certainly somewhere...

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Greg: Re: "...except that "Our Kind Of Love" was re-purposed from the song "My Heart is Slow To learn"....so "My Heart...." came first, then was re-written as "Our Kind of Love", then finally ended up where it belonged but with new lyrics as "Love Never Dies." And Sierra Boggess utterly nailed it, both on the album and in the show (which I had the pleasure of seeing during it's brief run, in the revised version)."

How lucky you were to have seen her (and, I assume, Ramin Karimloo!) in "Love Never Dies." I just have them on the double CD of it. Sierra was also wonderful in the 25th anniversary celebration of "Phantom." The only version of "Love Never Dies" I've seen is the Australian production shown on PBS and my Blu-ray of it, with Anna O'Byrne, who does a pretty good job with the title tune.

And thanks for the correction on the proper (rather convoluted!) chronology of the title song!

(After leaving this, I tried to come back to it, but couldn't find it, having forgotten that this thread was originally about Boyzone!)

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

This YouTube video just popped up on my screen:

http://youtu.be/9n8fxrejX78

It's a tribute by the group to lost member Stephen Gately, who died.

 
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